I can't see how the Kumho could be anything but lousy in the wet which makes it a non-starter for me.
Photography Credit: Anna Overman
No matter the situation, today’s tire market seems to offer a solution. Are you willing to trade some of your track rat’s pace for durability and consistency but want something faster than an endurance tire? Or are you maybe competing in the Gridlife Touring Cup, where the latest Super 200 hotness is on the banned list? If so, we have three Tweener 200s that might fit the bill.
Harris Hill Raceway would again serve as the test venue and our Triple Threat ND Miata the test mule. Tires were acquired in our preferred 245/40R17 size and mounted on 17x9-inch Kogeki alloys from Flyin’ Miata. We love these wheels both for their strength and good looks.
Once mounted, we drove each set of tires to and from the track, where we did six progressively harder laps to heat-cycle the rubber for maximum performance. We also sampled each tire’s road manners during this operation, as they can be a key purchase point if the goal is dual use.
From left to right: Kumho Ecsta V730, Nexen N'Fera Sport R, Yokohama Advan Neova AD09. Photography Credit: Andy Hollis
fastest lap: 1:27.5
Kumho has long been a player in this market segment, offering competitively priced tires that are among the best performance values out there. Great feel, long life and consistently good performance are the brand’s hallmarks.
These Kumhos are a good option for turning lots of laps with very good pace. We’ve tested this model before, so it was a natural choice to serve as our bracket tire.
fastest lap: 1:28.4
Yokohama has two entries in the 200tw arena. One is the pointy-end Advan A052, which is the latest in a long line of streetable track-focused tires, some of which came as OE fitments for circuit-oriented cars like the Lotus Elise. That tire is very fast but inconsistent and not particularly durable.
Yokohama’s other 200tw line is more street-oriented but still track-capable. In fact, we took a class win in the One Lap of America running its AD07 on our CRX a few years back. So we were anxious to see how this latest version, the Advan Neova AD09, performed.
fastest lap: 1:27.3
We’ve been anxious to try this one for quite some time, and we were not disappointed. Nexen has been dabbling in the 200tw category for several product cycles, and the Sport R is its latest offering. Alongside the Kumho V730, it is one of the preferred tires for 15-minute sprints that make up the Gridlife Touring Cup.
fastest lap: 1:27.4
Back on the Kumhos to bracket our test, we again cracked off consistent laps for the duration, similar to those at the start of the day. Confident that neither track nor driver had improved, we knew our data was good.
This is one of those tests where everybody wins. All these tires will deliver consistent results on track over a long lifetime.
While the Yokohama delivered a little less pace, it had better street manners and would be our choice for a car that sees more road use. But at close to $260 each in our size, it costs the most, too, as building a tire that can multitask so well takes development.
If turning lots of fast laps is your jam, both the Kumho and Nexen can deliver in spades–and cost a little less, too, going for closer to $200 in our size.
Road, track or somewhere in the middle? These three could fit the bill.
I can't see how the Kumho could be anything but lousy in the wet which makes it a non-starter for me.
gbuff said:I can't see how the Kumho could be anything but lousy in the wet which makes it a non-starter for me.
Depends on how wet.
Believe it or not, its one of the best out there in the damp. And even mild puddling. Great compound.
But yeah, deep water turns it into a kayak pretty quickly...
The steering deadzone was something I had to get used to on my Integra, but somehow I improved my times at the FIRM with the Nexen, including hitting my PB and being consistent on them. But they've gotten really loud after having them sit on my broken Intega for a few months in my garage before putting them on my Civic so I can have something to do some casual PCA autocrosses in.
Tried the Nexens last year on my VW Golf Sportwagen (245/40/17 on 17x9s) and was impressed for general intermediate-driver HPDE use. Easy to drive and v. grippy and do come up to temp quickly...were consinstent lap to lap but I'm not racing/TT'ing here...just lapping/having fun. I also noted that they are relatively quiet approaching the limit. I don't use them on the street so can't comment there.
Love the 730. Abused several sets. They have a little extra tread depth vs other 200tw tires and work until the cord show. Not bad at autox either. I never experienced the 1 lap to come in after initial heat cycle. What was ambient temp during test?
How much faster would you guess the A052, and CRSv3 are? To reference how much time can be gained by paying 2x more.
One of our local guys spoke poorly on Kumho as a brand, but I figured a Korean tire on a Korean car was meant to be. I regret not buying multiple sets when TR had that instant per tire rebate. I'm not sure if they get faster when they convert to semi- slick. But I've been really happy with them.
I agree that they take a good lap to turn on. I've lost the rear (fwd) on the first run on a acouple of autocrosses, almost lost it at track days as well. But they hold on for the entirety of 20 minute hpde sessions.
I really like them, and plan to buy them again. Great for hpde's and local autocrosses
In reply to Andy Hollis :
Found the same thing, in light greasy conditions the Kuhmo still retained great grip.
And far superior grip in the dry, get your pressures right and they perform consistently lap after lap.
What about wet capabilities as a daily tire?
How is the nexen in terms of aquaplaning? The ad09's look great in the wet with those massive center channels, and the v730s look like a no-go for a mainly daily summer tire.
Obviously all 3 of these tires can be dailyed in the dry, but what really separates them imo is road manners in the wet.
In the case of the ad09, I'd give up a bit of pace for aquaplanning resistance, as I drive every day and will only do 1-2 hpde a year.
thashane said:How much faster would you guess the A052, and CRSv3 are? To reference how much time can be gained by paying 2x more.
Responding to myself, since I forgot I already read A052 vs V730 and I guess I can't edit my post after 2hrs...
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