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hhaase
hhaase Reader
5/30/17 12:17 p.m.

What the hell is / was this?

You know, next year I probably WILL be looking for a project of a vintage racer, but for some reason I don't think this will be the one.

-Has

Dave
Dave Reader
5/30/17 12:23 p.m.

I don't know what it is or what one would do with it but it is kinda neat. Definitely something someone else should buy!

classicJackets
classicJackets HalfDork
5/30/17 12:39 p.m.

Coolest thing I've seen today. Someone buy it!!

Scooter
Scooter Dork
5/30/17 1:26 p.m.

It's way too close to Pittsburgh.

Pete Gossett
Pete Gossett GRM+ Memberand MegaDork
5/30/17 1:30 p.m.

What's that engine? I thought it might be a Pontiac Indy-4, but it's not. Nor is it an Iron Duke.

Dave
Dave Reader
5/30/17 1:38 p.m.
Pete Gossett wrote: What's that engine? I thought it might be a Pontiac Indy-4, but it's not. Nor is it an Iron Duke.

Says 1972 Fiat in the ad

racerdave600
racerdave600 SuperDork
5/30/17 1:56 p.m.

The rear suspension looks to be at least inspired by a sprint car, other than that, I have no idea. The registration says ASM, but googling that provided no real answers.

Chadeux
Chadeux Dork
5/30/17 3:29 p.m.

Wacky Races is the only thing I can think of looking at that. I don't think that's a bad thing.

RossD
RossD UltimaDork
5/30/17 3:38 p.m.

That seat needs a smiley face painted on the head rest. I'd daily drive that thing.

T.J.
T.J. UltimaDork
5/30/17 4:20 p.m.

One of these two should be driving that thing.

Apis Mellifera
Apis Mellifera HalfDork
5/30/17 4:26 p.m.

ASM means "assembled", which is what WV calls homemade cars, trucks, trailers, etc. that are homemade. Part of the title process requires you to show receipts/documentation of the components used to build it.

It looks like a modified motorcycle sidecar body to me.

hobiercr
hobiercr GRM+ Memberand Dork
5/30/17 4:36 p.m.

I wonder if the drivetrain is out of an 850. They were rear engine with a transaxle.

hhaase
hhaase Reader
6/1/17 8:22 a.m.

I'm not in any position to buy this one but did just message the buyer to see if he has any 'no body' photos.
It may have been neglected in the more recent years, but somebody did put some effort into this car at one point.
Definitely has me curious enough to find out more.

BoostedBrandon
BoostedBrandon Dork
6/1/17 8:26 a.m.

Looks like a soap box derby racer's wet dream.

Cooter
Cooter HalfDork
6/1/17 9:25 a.m.

The bones of it bear more than a passing resemblance to this purported late '50s F-IIIb that was on eBay a while back.

hhaase
hhaase Reader
6/1/17 9:57 a.m.

Hmmm, I do wonder if it may be an old Formula 3 or Formula Junior car. Looks like for a few years F3 did utilize 1 liter 4cyl car engines, and that would be right in the correct era. The more I look at this the more I think it may have actually seen track time wayyyyyy back.

Also looks like we have a winner in the 'guess the engine' game, sure looks exactly like a Fiat 850 motor. Not exactly a logical choice for a movie prop car. But apparently commonly used in F3/FJ cars.

I may have to have a difficult conversation with the Wife.

-Hans

Dusterbd13
Dusterbd13 UltimaDork
6/1/17 10:26 a.m.

I am having a hard time not bidding on this.

If the wife had a job starting in the next couple of weeks, id be doing my patgizz impression. But, need to hedge mu financial bets at the moment....

hhaase
hhaase Reader
6/1/17 10:35 a.m.

Starting a feeler discussion in this household too, if I start bidding I'll let you guys know. Rather not get into a bidding war with fellow GRM guys. It's a long-shot that I'll get the go ahead, but I may be making a run at this one.

Cooter
Cooter HalfDork
6/1/17 11:01 a.m.

Let me thicken the plot a bit more for you.

Cooter
Cooter HalfDork
6/1/17 11:09 a.m.

Pretty sure THESE are the "before" shots of the yellow car pictured in my first post, and they show enough of the suspension to tell me that the chassis is very similar.

I think GRM should have a "vintage open wheel" challenge next year.

Okay, maybe 10 years from now...

Pete Gossett
Pete Gossett GRM+ Memberand MegaDork
6/1/17 12:01 p.m.

In reply to Cooter:

Well, we know it's not a Devin Panhard, but it looks like it could be a contemporary to it?

Cooter
Cooter HalfDork
6/1/17 12:03 p.m.

In reply to Pete Gossett:

IJS

TIGMOTORSPORTS
TIGMOTORSPORTS HalfDork
6/1/17 12:03 p.m.

In reply to hhaase:

If under $2K someone's next Challenge car

spitfirebill
spitfirebill UltimaDork
6/1/17 12:17 p.m.

It has a bit of quarter midget look to it.

hobiercr
hobiercr GRM+ Memberand Dork
6/1/17 12:29 p.m.

The Fiat 1600 from a 124 can be transplanted for the 850 engine to almost double your displacement. Just sayin.

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