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markwemple
markwemple Reader
11/19/14 2:10 p.m.

NMNA http://audifans.com/afmktplc/index.php?page=item&id=429

captdownshift
captdownshift GRM+ Memberand Dork
11/19/14 2:19 p.m.

I can't believe that I took a good running quantum synchro of the road in 1999 in order to convert a MKIII jetta to AWD. In hindsight the quantum is an infinitely cooler car.

yamaha
yamaha UltimaDork
11/19/14 3:29 p.m.

Some yobbo went and drifted it straight into a tree/pole though......

fidelity101
fidelity101 SuperDork
11/19/14 3:51 p.m.

paging knurled.

EvanB
EvanB GRM+ Memberand UltimaDork
11/19/14 3:55 p.m.
fidelity101 wrote: paging knurled.

He needs to finish his before he buys any more.

Sine_Qua_Non
Sine_Qua_Non Dork
11/19/14 4:05 p.m.

Parts are EXPENSIVE for this car.

markwemple
markwemple Reader
11/19/14 4:49 p.m.

But you gotta love a 4000q wagon

Knurled
Knurled GRM+ Memberand PowerDork
11/20/14 4:43 p.m.
captdownshift wrote: In hindsight the quantum is an infinitely cooler car.

YES IT IS.

/owner of two of the things

Sine_Qua_Non
Sine_Qua_Non Dork
11/20/14 4:51 p.m.

I have one local to me but it's been sitting in the woods since 1995.

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markwemple
markwemple Reader
11/20/14 6:38 p.m.

Make him an offer

Knurled
Knurled GRM+ Memberand PowerDork
11/20/14 7:41 p.m.

The QSW is the ultimate awesome-car. It has a tougher drivetrain than any other AWD-techowagon while allowing any 5-cyl VWAG engine to literally bolt right up. So 500-600-1000hp is there for the asking, you just gotta do it to it. The handling is.. better than a 4000, because it has the rear suspension from a 944 but not infected with torsion bars. And it is a wagon, which instantly cancels out all other sins (AND THERE ARE NONE BY THE WAY)

In short, it is a non turbo ur-quattro (same chassis as the Audi S1!) with a better rear suspension and it's also a station wagon. This is like +infinity awesome points because these are all not additive, not multiplicative, but exponentative. That's not even a word. It's so awesome that a word had to be invented merely to descibe how to calculate its awesomeness.

Trufax: After sitting in/driving a Subaru 2.5RS from Columbus to Tulsa and back, I got into my QSW and said, wow, this is a way better car to drive than the Subaru. And 2.5RSs are awesome cars.

Sine_Qua_Non
Sine_Qua_Non Dork
11/20/14 8:20 p.m.

@ Knurled. What's the going rate these days for a Quantum? The guy wants $2.5K which is crack price IMHO.

Knurled
Knurled GRM+ Memberand PowerDork
11/20/14 8:42 p.m.

I dunno. There was a white turbo that went for $10k a while back. White's also a rare color, I've only ever seen two, that turbo one and my first QSW.

I paid $1500 for a rolling chassis to replace the aging white car. I have... a lot more money into it. Should be a 300hp 10v when finished, more like 400-450hp with a better turbo, which the package will support. (I am doing/have done all the things that nobody bothers to do with a 10v, since the 20v is the easy button) Someone wanted to buy it, I mentioned that I'd need at least $5k to make it worth my while to part with the still-not-completed car, and he didn't seem to lose interest.

But then, what can you buy with $5k? Nothing that is as nice as a QSW, that's for sure. We're talking RS2 if you want that much awesome, and RS2s are specifically not legal for import to the US. So then you have to get into S4 Avants (the A4 based ones, not the 5000/200 based ones) and the problem with S4s is none of them have five-cylinder engines so they all sound like crap. So the value ratio is like four S4s to one QSW.

markwemple
markwemple Reader
11/20/14 10:04 p.m.

So you prefer these to the 5ktqa, and the Urs4&6? The RS2 should fall in the 20 year rule. The problem is that they are getting big bucks. To bad the Audi 90 never came into the us. You could build an RS2. It's been done with coupes. There's always the rare 91.5 200tqa. Something like only 250 around, right?

markwemple
markwemple Reader
11/21/14 7:39 a.m.

Maybe I should contact Ben Swann. I'm sure he has a spare 3B or AAN hanging around just waiting to wake this thing up!

captdownshift
captdownshift GRM+ Memberand Dork
11/21/14 7:47 a.m.

Audi 90s came stateside, just not in wagon form, I've owned a pair of 90s over the years

markwemple
markwemple Reader
11/21/14 8:03 a.m.
captdownshift wrote: Audi 90s came stateside, just not in wagon form, I've owned a pair of 90s over the years

I was referring to the Avants. My dad had an 88 90 that he bought new. Sold it with well over 200k on the clock. Never needed anything but fluids, filters and brakes.

Apexcarver
Apexcarver PowerDork
11/21/14 8:13 a.m.

For inspiration

markwemple
markwemple Reader
11/21/14 10:14 a.m.

Seriously cool!

Knurled
Knurled GRM+ Memberand PowerDork
11/21/14 1:39 p.m.

Yah... I bought my rolling chassis from him

EvanB
EvanB GRM+ Memberand UltimaDork
11/21/14 1:41 p.m.

I may need some tips from him when I do my 740 pickup.

fidelity101
fidelity101 SuperDork
11/21/14 1:51 p.m.

you should get a license plate that says OCHO so you can have a QUATTRO SYNCRO OCHO

Knurled
Knurled GRM+ Memberand PowerDork
11/21/14 4:42 p.m.
fidelity101 wrote: you should get a license plate that says OCHO so you can have a QUATTRO SYNCRO OCHO

If/when I get the W8, was thinking of OKTAVIA...

Octave... eight... music... it made sense in my head. Plus, there's a really geeky reference between that name and proclaiming oneself as being a fool.

But re: QSW. The only PITA is that body/trim parts are simply not available. It's different from Fox and it's different from 4000 (the body is slightly wider than the 4000, and the doors are differently shaped on all three cars). VW basically disavowed all proof that they made a B2 chassis car. Also, everything rear suspension is pure unobtanium.

markwemple
markwemple Reader
11/21/14 5:53 p.m.

I thought you said that the rear was 944. If so that's dime store stuff

Knurled
Knurled GRM+ Memberand PowerDork
11/21/14 6:58 p.m.

It's similar to 944. But 944 parts don't actually fit. It has coilover shocks that are QSW-specific (although it appears that 3000GT VR-4 rear shocks may work) and the suspension bushings are just not available. Control arms are NLA. Rear wheel bearings are the same as the front, unless you have a service-replacement rear control arm made after the Passat era, in which case it's something different. (Passat Syncro used just about the same suspension. So did the Golf Syncro/Country)

Brakes, at least, are 10.1" Jetta everything. Except for the rear rotors and calipers, though.

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