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Hurst Olds, NMNA.
Invented by Ben Franklin, and never patented because he felt it was too important for everyone to have them.
In reply to Woody:
Notice the rust on the front of the passenger side door and I from the area code that is a rust belt car...
When Warren Johnson and the Pro Stock world were allowed to change to air shifted lencos, we made a mini version of the of the lighting rod shifter. Each of the 4 four inch tall sticks actuated the trans mounted solenoids. It was a more consistent shift then the the manual pull shifters.
A decal package, hideous T-Tops, a wheezing smog choked 180hp to push a damn near 2 ton car around, a chassis that was outdated by 2 decades when it was built, and at some point it will likely get stolen and turned into a donk. Sounds like a deal to me.
In reply to Aeromoto:
These also had a different suspension package and it should have an 8.5 rear instead of the 7.5. Besides T tops are cool. The engine can be swapped. The chassis is good there is a reason it is so popular for race cars even today. Any car can be stolen. And come on it is a freakin Hurst Olds man!
These are cool, and a 455 (like the one I still have in my garage) swaps right in. 307's are TERRIBLE. I'd rock one in a heartbeat.
I used to lust after these back in highschool in the mid 90's. They were dirt cheap back then, along with the Monte SS's. No one had deemed them collectible and you could pick up a decent example for under $2k. I was trying to find an SS monte a few months ago and was floored at the craptacular projects and basket cases that folks want at least 3-4k for.
redhookfern wrote: I used to lust after these back in highschool in the mid 90's. They were dirt cheap back then, along with the Monte SS's. No one had deemed them collectible and you could pick up a decent example for under $2k. I was trying to find an SS monte a few months ago and was floored at the craptacular projects and basket cases that folks want at least 3-4k for.
And that's why I've hung onto my 1979 Trans Am for 12+ years now. When I bought it, the car was shunned by enthusiasts as being a heavy, slow POS with a boat anchor engine.
Now, mine's a heavy, fast (when it runs) POS that is sought after by former mullet heads that had one in high school back in the 80's and 90's and want to relive their youth, hence moving prices upward. Also, they now make all sorts of cool restoration and performance parts for it, so I can build it any way I want to!
Same deal with the G-body stuff.
SilverFleet wrote: These are cool, and a 455 (like the one I still have in my garage) swaps right in. 307's are TERRIBLE. I'd rock one in a heartbeat.
No giving me ideas!
SilverFleet wrote: And that's why I've hung onto my 1979 Trans Am for 12+ years now. Now, mine's a heavy, fast (when it runs) POS that is sought after by former mullet heads that had one in high school back in the 80's and 90's and want to relive their youth, hence moving prices upward.
Yep. When guys get kids done with college, the disposable income goes way up. This happens around age 50-55, when they are still young enough to find a toy and enjoy recreating youth. So 2013 - 53 = 1960, plus 16 = 1976. Bingo.
In the collector car world, this is why 30's and 40's cars started to fade and 60's cars were the rage over the past decade. People will always go toward old classics as the blue chips, but the new collectors will go toward the cars of their high school days. This is why, in about another 15 years, we'll be sitting there watching a bone stock fully restored 1985 CRX Si or 1984 Rabbit GTI cross B-J stage for $75k and we'll say "man I wish I would have kept the one I had."
We know that GM cars of the mid 70's were horrible. Choked carbs, emission control lines running everywhere, no steering feel, etc. Yet someone posts a picture of a mid 70's full-size wagon and we all spend multiple pages cooing all over it because it just doesn't matter. Nostalgia is a powerful thing.
Having owned a 3.8 powered G body that moved out, and drove better than it had a right to. And having driven my former employers 12 sec flat street trim 70 Cutlass with a 455 under the hood. I wholeheartedly endorse the idea of someone besides me putting silverfleets 455 into that! That would be one hell of a ride.
I have always wanted to put a stout 455 in a lighter G-Body car. If no one buys mine, I may have to do that someday.
With these cars, stock sucks. Anyone who pays through the nose for a mint 80's 442 that's all original with the wheezy windowed-main 307 and it's miles of emission tubes and carb that flat out ignores what the computer is suggesting is off their rocker.
Build it the way the GM engineers intended, not how the bean counters mandated.
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