DukeOfUndersteer
DukeOfUndersteer SuperDork
1/7/11 8:20 a.m.

not mine

Here is a 1991 240sx with a Rb20det swap. The car needs a tune or you could just put the stock MAF on it and dont run the SAFC. The battery dies alot it has a red top in it. Needs paint and the center taillight pieces. The clutch master cylinder was replace but I dont know if that was the problem or the clutch is going out. I have the title in hand however its not in my name, but it was signed over and notarized with a bill of sale. the price is 2000obo. Im ran into money problems with the car and no longer have to funds to finish it. The price I will would with someone on (obo). Car needs to be trailor do to the fact of the clutch issue. I did drive this car to WV about 2 months ago and it ran fine. you can email for pics. parts: New exhaust manifold gasket New valve cover gaskets Rb20DET apexi exhaust turbox boost controller megan track racing susp Z32 turbo maf apexi afc 2 Jecs fuel pump nismo mounts r32 skyline front brakes skyline brake lines r33 turbo greddy rs blov blitz front mount r32 cross member sportmax wheels Seco Clutch Cwest style front bumper Yellow Jacket coil packs

http://atlanta.craigslist.org/eat/cto/2147547464.html

92CelicaHalfTrac
92CelicaHalfTrac SuperDork
1/7/11 8:26 a.m.

Blah. About the only good thing about this motor is that once it's in there, you can drop the bigger RB motors in.

That thing is utter trash.

BoxheadTim
BoxheadTim GRM+ Memberand SuperDork
1/7/11 9:37 a.m.

Have you actually owned a car with an RB20DET in it?

The Skyline I owned in the UK had one and IME it's a pretty sweet engine.

92CelicaHalfTrac
92CelicaHalfTrac SuperDork
1/7/11 9:51 a.m.

I haven't, and i'll agree that while they're running, they're pretty cool. I have driven an S13 w/ RB20DET in it, actually, and i like small displacement 6s.

But from a performance standpoint, they aren't that great. They don't hold together once you try to make more power than stock. Which doesn't necessarily define an engine, i'll admit, but if i'm going to swap an engine, the idea is to that i'm going to do it for a big increase in power/reliability at those power levels.

I'd bet that turbo'ing the KA24DE that came in that car originally would have made more power and held together better.

On the plus side, it's $2000. I'd buy it, have fun with it until i threw a rod through the block, and then dumb in a big boy RB, which would be a bolt-in affair at that point.

BoxheadTim
BoxheadTim GRM+ Memberand SuperDork
1/7/11 10:04 a.m.
92CelicaHalfTrac wrote: But from a performance standpoint, they aren't that great. They don't hold together once you try to make more power than stock. Which doesn't necessarily define an engine, i'll admit, but if i'm going to swap an engine, the idea is to that i'm going to do it for a big increase in power/reliability at those power levels.

That's news to me - it's pretty easy to get an R32 Skyline w/RB20DET up to about 300bhp without turning into a hand grenade with the pin pulled. IIRC once you get over 280-300 you need aftermarket engine management, otherwise it might go bang anytime.

Trouble is, you need to know what you're doing and there are a bunch of people out there who don't, with predictably comedic results.

IIRC - and it's been a while - the turbos on these are a bit allergic to high boost (ceramic wheels or somethin', don't have the time to look it up at the moment) so you need upgrade the turbo for boost over 0.8 bar. If you don't, well, it's not really the fault of the engine .

I certainly wouldn't say no to one to put in an old Z-Car or similar, but then again I do know who to talk to for reliable info on these engines...

4cylndrfury
4cylndrfury SuperDork
1/7/11 11:03 a.m.

no one has mentioned the facts that is appears there are 2 different cars pictured? Id probably be ok with one that was monkeyed with under the hood, but ziptied and bondoed body kits make me queasy

92CelicaHalfTrac
92CelicaHalfTrac SuperDork
1/7/11 11:07 a.m.
BoxheadTim wrote:
92CelicaHalfTrac wrote: But from a performance standpoint, they aren't that great. They don't hold together once you try to make more power than stock. Which doesn't necessarily define an engine, i'll admit, but if i'm going to swap an engine, the idea is to that i'm going to do it for a big increase in power/reliability at those power levels.
That's news to me - it's pretty easy to get an R32 Skyline w/RB20DET up to about 300bhp without turning into a hand grenade with the pin pulled. IIRC once you get over 280-300 you need aftermarket engine management, otherwise it might go bang anytime. Trouble is, you need to know what you're doing and there are a bunch of people out there who don't, with predictably comedic results. IIRC - and it's been a while - the turbos on these are a bit allergic to high boost (ceramic wheels or somethin', don't have the time to look it up at the moment) so you need upgrade the turbo for boost over 0.8 bar. If you don't, well, it's not really the fault of the engine . I certainly wouldn't say no to one to put in an old Z-Car or similar, but then again I do know who to talk to for reliable info on these engines...

Maybe it's just mainly the drift guys, then. I know they tend to grenade pretty quickly under those conditions.

I'm not totally dismissing them. I think they'd be a great motor in a 240z or something. But i'm just not convinced of their worth in the S13/14 chassis. Great leaps have been made in the last few years in the KA world, and to me, the power potential of the RB20 just isn't there to make it worth the expensive and PITA swap an RB into S13/S14 is.

But that's just my opinion, and you know what they say about THOSE.

4cylndrfury
4cylndrfury SuperDork
1/7/11 11:12 a.m.
92CelicaHalfTrac wrote: But that's just my opinion, and you know what they say about THOSE.

its awesome to know that youre right when everyone else is wrong??

92CelicaHalfTrac
92CelicaHalfTrac SuperDork
1/7/11 11:19 a.m.
4cylndrfury wrote:
92CelicaHalfTrac wrote: But that's just my opinion, and you know what they say about THOSE.
its awesome to know that youre right when everyone else is wrong??

I approve!

But really, they're like shiny happy people. Everyone has one, and they all stink.

4cylndrfury
4cylndrfury SuperDork
1/7/11 11:23 a.m.
92CelicaHalfTrac wrote:
4cylndrfury wrote:
92CelicaHalfTrac wrote: But that's just my opinion, and you know what they say about THOSE.
its awesome to know that youre right when everyone else is wrong??
I approve! But really, they're like shiny happy people. Everyone has one, and they all stink.

...and no one wants to hear em

aussiesmg
aussiesmg SuperDork
1/7/11 2:41 p.m.

Now if it was a SR20DET I would be all over it

irish44j
irish44j Dork
1/9/11 5:03 p.m.

I wonder if that big Nissan racing stripe makes it difficult to see through the windshield. Also, that's an interesting front-mount turbo, down low near the ground like that..

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