So after running the Ae86 at the MiDev I realized I need some more rear end grip. Thinking a wing will help. I would like to make it removable so I drive around with a big air-brake looking thing.
So TL;DR I need pics of removable SM legal wings and possibly tips on making one.
I'm not sure what wing profile you'll want, but this should be a good place to get a foam core to cover in FG/CF:
Flying Foam was completely unresponsive when I was trying to buy sections from them for a similar project- maybe don't mention that it's for a car?
You could also just do a monster spoiler instead:
If it's bolted to the trunk lid, removal is simple- just swap trunk lids!
In reply to ¯_(ツ)_/¯:
I like this idea but getting another ae86 coupe trunk lid wouldnt be cheap or easy.
A spoiler will provide a simpler and just as effective means of generating rear downforce as a well designed wing. Getting a wing big enough and setup properly is all about the details. A spoiler can be adjusted in height and angle pretty easily to get the balance you want/need. An added bonus is that the construction is simple. You can make a spoiler from carbon/glass and resin if you want to do that and it will weight less that polycarbonate or metal for the same size/strength. Bolting it on gives you the ability to remove it for 'normal' car use.
The biggest difference between downforce from a wing and a spoiler is the small drag gain. For autocross use the drag penatly is very small, even for a spoiler. Most cars are traction limited in the lower gears used for autcross, so the drag is not a major impact, but the downforce is real and can be VERY significant.
Ask any questions you might have.
Just make a fiberglass trunk lid using the factory one as a buck to save holes etc in the good one.
For SM I'd go with the dual element monster wing,but I don't know how SM'd your corolla is to justify it and Stafford is the man to listen too before me no doubt.
Big rabbit hole to go down to be competitive.
In reply to Fitzauto:
I don't know what the rules for street mod are now, but when I was still autocrossing you didn't need stock body panels, just an "equivalent replacement". What about a huge wing that bolts to something inside the trunk, removing the trunk lid entirely, and just covering the hole with a thin fabric or something?
For the wing itself, FSAE probably has the most insane levels of development for low speed car aero- and tons of people have written about it, so if you want some reading search "FSAE wing design" or similar.
In reply to ¯_(ツ)_/¯:
I think you at least need a panel now, so a fiberglass trunk lid may be the way to go.
or, if you go the wing route, a replacement bumper with long mounts.
In reply to ¯_(ツ)_/¯:
Flying foam was very responsive when I sent them my own cad files for a completely custom car wing.
This guy is 6' wide and has a 10" chord length
In reply to DaveEstey:
Weird. I must have caught them during a break or something, or maybe my email went straight to spam.
In reply to ¯_(ツ)_/¯: Try again if you're still in the market. When I was talking to them they mentioned they do quite a few car wings.
http://cirodesignracing.com/ makes wing mounts should you need something along those lines as well. They made a set for me that I'll be able to glass right into the wing.
I want to go the Blackbird Fabworx route with a big rear spoiler. I'll just keep short links in the box so I can trim it out mostly flat for daily driving, and up steep for autox. I need a deeper front lip as well. I'm not the best driver by far, but I don't seem to have as much traction as I feel I should.
In reply to Duke:
This is what I was thinking but removable. I also relate to the not as much traction as I think should be there.
If you want to get the most out of it, I would think that (much like a wing) a spoiler should ideally have end plates.
These seem to do the trick in CSP for downforce.
A buddies AE86 he runs in SM. Spoiler is aluminum.
In reply to KyAllroad:
That car looks familiar. You dont happen to know his instagram name do you?
In reply to Fitzauto:
Sorry, no. I'm not an instagrammer.
Looks like its time to find a piece of lexan to work with.
Fitzauto wrote: In reply to Duke: This is what I was thinking but removable. I also relate to the not as much traction as I think should be there.
Keep in mind why these cars have a cult following.....they're perfect drift cars as the rear doesn't make much grip.
I can bore you to tears listing all the changes to my AE86 over 9 yrs of autox only use.
In reply to kevlarcorolla:
Id actually be very interested in that. Since buying it Ive decided it will be my main Autocross car.
Barely above freezing on R888's,first time on the new engine(only 8psi)first event of the yr up here in the north.
https://youtu.be/HjdvM3aS0TM
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