An unbroken chain of annual cross county road trips in a 1987 Honda CRX SI going back to 2008. The experience started out as "reliability study, just how far can I push this Honda" to "Crap, this cars old. I'd better refresh components to keep up for long-haul reliability". Well, this is turning out to be "rebuilding" as I go.....
"The Beater - CRX#1". First Generation Honda Civic CRX SI 1G
This is the second car I owned. Bought it in 1993 while I was in college. She took me through 3 corporate jobs, Three resident states, a wife and 2 kids. Was my daily driver until 2002 when our first child turned 1 and my wife forbid the kids driving in this car. Was able to push it another year in 2003, then my wife put her foot down. I vowed I'd never sell this car. (My buddies regretting selling their Nova SS's, Cameros and Mustangs of our 80's high school era). I never sold mine.
Job and life (kid mandate) got in the way. I put the car in storage in 2004. Let it sit until 2008. Put a new battery in her. Kept turning the key.... turning and turning.... One cylinder fired... a second,.... kept cranking... the third, then finally the fourth! She fired up on 4 year old gas! The 4 year old gummed up gas (was stabilized) finally blew through all the injectors!
I joined Redpepperracing in 2008. Began a post in 2009. Posted something like: "I'm driving from Texas to Michigan, what should I bring as spare parts?" Here's the original post/threads since 2009: http://www.redpepperracing.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=45890&page=6 I'll fill in a few high lights of the previous trips below. No a lot to tell. Car always ran great. Great gas mileage. Due to time constraints and my anxiousness to get into the woods, I'd drive through the night. So no sightseeing during the road trips.
2008 began annual trips back to my roots of mid-Michigan to hunt w my father in the thousands of acres of state land I hunted as a kid.
Earlier Trip Skiing in Vermont (taken in 1997 before the Maco paint job. Sporting the 80's pinstripe, pre trailer hitch)
I spent my college weekends and holiday breaks trekking upper Michigan in search of the best fishing, camping, grouse hunting I could find. Resurrecting this car post college has been reliving my childhood w smiles ear to ear.
RELIABILITY STUDY: Purchase and repair history of the car. A good roadmap to Fellow CRX owners of component replacement. Repair history / Major Component replacement / sub assembly rebuild threads.
(Information below last updated 9/2023 295,600 miles)
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THIS SECTION OF POST #1 WILL BE UPDATED AS FUTURE REPAIRS ARE PERFORMED. INTENT IS FOR 1G/3G OWNERS MAINTAINING MOSTLY OEM. NO PERFORMANCE MODIFICATIONS.
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MAJOR COMPONENT LIFE SPAN:
ENGINE: original, unopened. Pulled engine 2003 (Oil drips on driveway) to replace all the rubber hoses and dymanic seals w Honda OE (no leaks since). Did not replace oil pan seal as down pipe was a PITA to move. Oil pan started showing signs of leak residue 2 years ago. So far, no drips in garage. Honda says adjust valves every 30K. Since mostly Highway, 60-70K intervals for this car is fine. Burns 1/3 qrt between my 3000-4000 oil changes
TRANSMISSION: Removed 260K (new axle seals w 2003 engine pull). Differential bearings beginning to click. Caused from pulling a trailer too much. Car was not designed for this type of duty. Syncs actually okay. Second gear had become touchy. Swapped w 43K junk yard tranny. Plan to rebuild and place original back in service.
CV's: Rebooted w OE about every 60-70K. Finally replaced at 250K, backlash more than I'd like. No clicking. NOS drivers side installed. Passenger from low mileage donor. I think the excessive backlash placed too much twisting on the boots (and have been using 25 year old Honda OE's. Probably weakening due to age)
RADIATOR: Replaced 100K ish due to leak (probably weakened from accident). Replace w ND copper original.
DISTRIBUTOR: Original. Replaced igniter 250K for insurance. New orings 2003.
STEERING RACK: Discovered rack housing had crack from PO's accident. replaced w junkie rack 2002ish. Around 245K, hunking while turning wheel side to side when stopped. Issue: tensioner needed adjusting. Removed the JY rack from service. Rebuilt a lower mileage rack. Swapped original OE tie joints (inner/outer) from low mileage rack.
MAIN RELAY: replaced around 160-180. Intermitten failures of fuel pump. Many fuel pumps have unnecessarily been replaced due to this part.
FUEL PUMP: 280K Replaced w used OE pump w 129K miles. Pump still worked, very noisy - especially below 20F, low suction
LOWER CONTROL ARM / BALL JOINTS: Original. replaced boots several times
FRONT STRUTS: Replaced w Honda OE 120K ish = seeping (believe from accident)
REAR SUSPENSION: 240K. rear suspension sag 1". broke shock bolts on axle due to rust while removing. So swapped entire axle w lower mileage axle w springs. New kby shocks to replace factory originals. spring spacers for factory ride height.
FUEL TANK: original, not cleaned yet.
VACUUM BOOSTER / MASTER CYLINDER: MC leaked into booster around 240K (we both original). MC cylinder pitted, couldn't rebuild. Booster bent while removing MC. Grabbed a clean, used booster, rebuilt w Honda NOS kit. Replaced MC w JNP (made in japan). Replaced factory original brake lines at time w Honda OE.
STARTER: Original
ALTERNATOR: Bearings seizing 160-180K ish. Replaced w a 100K Denso OE red label. Later had to replace brushes, then rectifier, then rotor. A seperate repair post on this.
IGNITION COIL: Replaced around 260K for insurance
MUFFLER: seem to replace every 40-65K. Just rusts out quickly for me
AC SYSTEM: Stopped working 200K ish?? Removed from car 240K for upcoming rebuild. Keeping HOnda OE and r12.
REAR WHEEL BEARINGS: Replaced w BCA hubs (NTN bearing w NOK seals). 260K replace for insurance. I just didn't know. No noisey or obvious wear.
FRONT WHEEL BEARINGS: Replaced w Nachi 286K for insurance. Broke a lub so good time to replace. Once opened, the grease was still sticky. I'll bet they could have gone another 50+K.
FAST IDLE CONTROL VALVE :: irratic idling during start up 2009 ish. opened and cleaned. 288K, beginning to notice slight irregular idle during vary cold start up - assume its ready for another cleaning.
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SUB-ASSEMBLY REBUILD POSTS (Rebuilds back to Honda OE specification best possible to maintain car to original 1980's Japanese reliability)
Alternator: http://www.redpepperracing.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=59494&hl=
Sanden A/C: http://www.redpepperracing.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=59527&hl=
Rear Springs/shocks: http://www.redpepperracing.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=59214&hl=
OE Exhaust: http://www.redpepperracing.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=59488&hl=
Seatbelt Repair: http://www.redpepperracing.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=59534&hl=
Electrical Issues: http://www.redpepperracing.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=59533&hl=
Aluminum Rim Straightening: http://www.redpepperracing.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=59484&hl=
Water Pump: http://www.redpepperracing.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=59529&hl=
Steering Rack Rebuild: http://www.redpepperracing.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=59394&hl=%2Bsteering+%2Brack
CV Axle Rebuild: http://www.redpepperracing.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=59435&hl=%2Bsteering+%2Brack#entry580243
Plastics History (Honda HP-Alloy) How to Repair Fender/header/Side Skirts - the right way: http://www.redpepperracing.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=45417&hl=plastics#entry580541
Door Side Skirts & Why They Crack: http://www.redpepperracing.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=45357&page=2&hl=plastics#entry580374
Fuel Pump/Line replace/analysis: Upcoming.
Radiator Flow Evaluation: http://www.redpepperracing.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=59363&hl=radiator
Vacuum Booster / Master Cylinder Rebuild: need to document, upcoming
Apparently, the car was totaled and rebuilt: salvage title in 1988. I never knew it until I pulled a carfax years later. Explained all the weird component failures below as 80's Hondas are bullet proof. Keep this in mind as you breeze the repair list.
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DETAILED REPAIRS OVER LIFETIME
93 Purchased car. $4200 w 78K on the clock
93 85K new complete aftermarket exhaust - A&B pipes
93 86K new aftermarket upper radiator hose
94 90K replaced timing/pump w oem.
*** moved Michigan to Long island NY - less salt, a little more sun. Lots of road abuse on the NY parkways****
94 gas smell under hood. finally determined leaking fuel injector. Fuel leaked not at seal, but fused connection of the metal to plastic in the middle of the injector barrel. I replaced all injectors/seals - way over kill looking back at it.
94 97K Finally got around to repairing hazards. Connection at the battery positive cable went bad - damaged and looks like from accident.
95 100K front pass strut began seeping a little. Bounce test was fine. replaced struts w oe. Replaced clutch/plate/bearing w oe. aftermarket cv boots and oe ball joint boots.
95 105K ND radiator leaking. replaced w another Nippon Denso. Replaced muffler under warranty. AC stopper working. I later found out if you swap the cooling fan and thermo sensor wire harness boot connections to the radiator, you blow the climate control module below the radio (took me 30hrs of testing all pieces down the damn black and blue sensing wire to find that. (later found the dealer did the same to my concourse before I bought it when it was in a front end collision - that one took 30min to troubleshoot)
95 109K found out rims were bending from hitting all the potholes driving in NYC. got used rim from my favorite junkie in Mich. Later took the bend rim to a shop to repair - they did a crap job. Then experimented straightening my own.
1996 found 25K concourse car and bought as a spare. Work beer trades w/ local Honda parts buddy and began buying maintenance parts to support both cars from what I assumed to own until I was 80yrs old. Later started on weather trim, seals, plastics. never had restoration in mind, just parts to keep them on the road.
96 113K calipers dragging. replaced w oe not knowing I just had to grease the pins. Replaced aftermarket rotors, warped immediately. returned and bought oe. From that point forward, no more aftermarket.
96 119K broke blinker switch arm, replace w used oe. another bent rim on the way into the city. Used rim. I bent out the kink myself.
97 139K found mud guards in junkyard. never knew they existed. Installed them and have been on ever since.
97 142K added hitch and brought my rowboat back from Michigan (start of the downfall of my transmission). spend most summer weekends on Great South Bay off Robert Moses.
97 148K $400 maco paint job. I wet sanded entire car, braised and repaired wheel wells. replaced sunroof (rusted), gas door (bent from PO), door rubber window strip (NOS) and rusted metal strip between bumper and taillights. cleaned out sunroof switch that gummed up. Car broken into NYC. passenger door lock cylinder spun out. repaired.
1998 Moved to Dallas Relo package ferried both crx's to TX (Rust free dream, began buying TX CRXs). Still not planning restorations
10/98 152K new muffler NOS muffler (remove 15K miles later after realizing they were no longer available. Figured I'd need for a car show someday). Replace w Bosal aftermarket.
5/99 157K replaced rusted/ sticking ebrake cable w junkie - no tx salt from the local yards. replaced dr wheel cylinder, rebult pass w oe parts/seals. dizzy oring. Charged A/C and found out electrical issue w ac I caused from the radiator repair. AC back on line.
3/00 162K found out on inspection that steering rack was cracked from impact (from PO collision). replaced w junkyard and new oe bellow boots. New OE ball/tie boots. Car died on highway. Kept turning the starter. Melted the ignition wire at the column. Had to get it towed. Replace ig switch and car would not start up every now and then. But I always got it going. Always thought it was a fuel pump. later found out it was the main relay causing intermitten start up problems.
7/00 167K outer cv boots cracking (damn aftermarket!) replaced outer only w oe
12/00 174K oil cooler hoses hard as rock and began seeping. replaced w oe. Calipers sticking, regreased pins
7/02 177K several oil leaks. pulled motor, replaced all coolant/heater related hoses, all dymamic oil seals replaced - camshaft, main lower, transaxle, ext.. CV hub seals.... everything. NO gaskets touched. motor not opened other than valves. Replaced cylinder head engine mount, began cracking.
2004 begin lawn business and used crx and trailer to pull equip for first year to see if I really wanted to quit corporate and go full time. Car got some moderate to heavy use.Pulled some 2000 pound loads of rock/soil. Alternator had been sticking. I opened it up, very hard w salt corrosion, the copper slip ring was almost worn through. so I just put in a used alt off an 100K car OE.
8/04 192K replaced broken exhaust hanger.
Car sent to storage - no prepping other than jacking the car up on plastic as usual.
10/08 storage reserrection! Car eventually fired up on old gas. It took some turning. but I could tell when each injector would "unstick" and would come on line. Until all 4 fired. replaced leaking fuel rail oring on end cap. replaced front pads, filed rotors smooth. brake cylinders trashed. rebuilt w oe cups, polished inside w 400 grit paper. cyclops brake line does not work. Rubber stoppers on break/clutch pedals disintegrated, replaced oe.
2010-12? had some sporatic starting problems w car. On trip to michigan, it finally stopped long enough for me to trouble shoot, spark test, fuel test, voila, main relay. No issues since (kept all parts in car w tools were ever I went). Rear wiper stopped working. Peppers helped me and found wire harness broke at lift gate wire pivot, repaired.
2014 228K Beginning maintenance inspections for overhaul.
Seals hoses, belts, boots all in great shape. Passenger wheel bearing getting a little play. Hearing some ticking coming from tranny when I put it in reverse, need to check dizzy for shaft endplay, never repaced rear wheel bearings, will be checking all that stuff. tie/ball joint checked annually for tightness. Muffler was used after I took off the OE. its starting to go.
10/2014 flushed radiator and brake fluids
235K, new toyo tires (2)
10/2015 238K New honda battery
3/2017 replaced drivers seatbelt since it no longer retracted. drivers interior plastic door pull handle broke, used screw and jammed it into the old door plastic grommet.
2016/17. Rotors kept dragging/making noise slightly. replaced w NOS from pads/rotors. rebuilt calipers w NOS seals, regreased slide pins.
2016/17 rear end sag. removed rear axle, broke shock bolts - replaced axle w rust free CRX#4 axle. KYB shocks. added 1" spacers to lift back to spec. Used springs from a 150K Junkie TX CRX (clean/no rust/less mileage and bounce cycles). replaced rear break lines w NOS old school wagner.
10/25/2018. Master cylinder leaked into booster. both original. took apart cylinder, pitted, not rebuildable. replaced w NOS japanese aftermarket. Boost so rusted, couldn't take it part wo bending metal. grabbed clean booster from CRX#4, rebuilt w Honda NOS rebuilt gasket kit. inspect rear brakes, pads/seals good. both outer CV boots beginning to tear. drivers ball seal grease stain.
11/2019 252,450 Notice steering wheel slop/clunk. realized toyota late model radiator fluid previously installed is attacking copper/brass in old CRX system. Removed, flushed til clear water, installed old school green designed for aluminum, copper,brass system. exhaust manifold gasket leak. removed manifold replaced gaskets. broke several stuck replaced w Honda studs. replaced original O2 sensor due to occational O2 code on computer at high speeds. replaced some plug wire plastic brackets w JY stock - heat finally broke them. replaced NOS water pump/belt w Koyo idler bearing (original bearing as i never replaced it, made enough noise for concern). timing cover grommet, new plugs, 5 wire set NOS, replaced cooler inlet assembly to head due to bleeder nipple stuck 12 years ago. Dizzy, wiggled shaft = good. new TEC cap/rotor, NOS valve cover gasket. replaced hardened windshield wiper tubing in engine bay due to heat/age. Monroe rear hatch shocks, TSK throttle cable. Steering wheel nut loose, retighten.
12/5/2019 steering rack clunks a little on turning wheel back and forth. Root cause: inner/outer joints still faily tight, was the rack tensioner allowing rack to pop our of the pinion more during turns. Sorted steering racks. Selected best rack, reclocked rack one tooth to offset highway wear spot. seleced best inner/outer joints from used OEM stock. rebooted w NOS. Greased rack w mobile 5% heavy duty moly... see post for more detail.
2/13/2020 254,680 oil change.
9/7/2020 258,206 Oil changed. Noted outer cv boot tearing.
10/2020 259,000. CV axles, finally removed original shafts from service due to more slop than I'd like. Selected a used OEM passenger shaft, rebooted w NOS. Drivers installed NOS shaft w outer joint, selected tight oem inner from Junkie stock. reduced rotational slop by 75%.
5/9/2021 265,942: oil change.
10/2021 269,540: Diff bearings clicking more than I like. replaced w 43K Junkie tranny, new NOK seals installed, shifter seal and boot. replaced clutch, pressure plate and release bearing w NOS. removed flywheel and replaced rear main oil seal NOS. Old shift mechanism worn, replaced w used, hammered pins to tighten tolerance. flushed tranny 3x w oil, drove 4 days, reinstalled honda MT oil,
11/3/21 269,671: self alignment check. replaced rear hub/bearing assy w NTN. rotated back driver ball joint post to bring camber back to normal.
11/12/21 269,800: New tires. Nos coil replaced for insurance. installed radiator mesh rock shield, installed fog lights for road trips. Replaced passenger cracked headlight, see "headlight" file for details. installed sylvania silver star.
4/15/22 273,200: rebuilt alt failed. Rotor winding evaporated. Rebuilt w MM cracked housing alt, salvaged part, 1 new bearing - arc assumed to create rough spot. reinstalled 252K after rebuild.
5/30/22 274,541: Oil change. tire rotation.
9/2022 280,400. Removed dash to access rusty fuel lines for replacement. Replaced pump/bracket/outlet hose w used 129K. removed 280k inlet line filter, 20% filled w junk - assume fuel tank sock filter still doing its job. Oil change, changed coolant. New fuel engine bay filter. clutch pedal bushings replaced/greased to get rid of squeak. changed light bulbs speedo & climate control to fix a burnt bulb. removed alarm. Removed evap for replacement. New foam around heater core interfaces. MadMax hit curb FL tire. slow sidewall leak, replaced front set, rim spun and straight.
XX/XX/XXXX 284K. Oil change
1/2023 287000 Pre for Destin Florida trip. Removing tires for balancing at the shop. Broke off a lug stud. Removed Knuckles and replace both from wheel bearings. Removed a stud from another car and reinstalled. Bleed brakes. Changed NOS Honda pads to ACDelco ceramic. Drivers rear wheel cylinder cup seeping. rebuilt w new NOS cups. Passenger OK. Removed pistons and cleaned bores. Sanded corrosion off the uppermost pistons on both sides.. Balance tires and rotate
2/2023 287000. Low speed blower motor not functional diagnosed blower resister failed. Replaced w used from another car.
6/2/23 292,452 miles. Oil change
9/23 295,824: Oil change, tranny oil change, coolant flush (green). Seat covers, Left fogger bulb cracked, LED cyclopse bulbs installed.
*****20* Editing below to add details/pix of each years road trips 2009 to present ******
She's a work horse
1994 Rand McNally Atlas. All the places this car's been (as of 2/2023). W this atlas. The leg in California was the drive home when I bought a Straman CRX 2001. The Beaters never made it to California.