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frenchyd
frenchyd MegaDork
10/26/22 9:28 a.m.

In reply to Woody (Forum Supportum) :

Yes that and the slightly shorter wheel base.   It's  is a few hundred pounds lighter and more of a sports sedan than the later longer ones. 
    The trick is to find a pair of seats with the little picnic tables in the back of the front seats.  Talk about POSH 

frenchyd
frenchyd MegaDork
10/26/22 7:03 p.m.

frenchyd
frenchyd MegaDork
10/26/22 7:03 p.m.

frenchyd
frenchyd MegaDork
10/26/22 7:04 p.m.

frenchyd
frenchyd MegaDork
10/26/22 7:05 p.m.

jfryjfry
jfryjfry SuperDork
10/26/22 8:31 p.m.

Gorgeous!   Very glad to see and excited to see what comes of it

Woody (Forum Supportum)
Woody (Forum Supportum) GRM+ Memberand MegaDork
10/26/22 8:50 p.m.

Lovely. 

frenchyd
frenchyd MegaDork
10/26/22 9:15 p.m.

In reply to jfryjfry :

The Green one is going to my wife's 16 year old granddaughter to get to and from college. 
   The Red one (50 years old) is going to pull my Jaguar Race Car. The old six will be replaced with one of my V12's it's 30 pounds lighter nd the Borg Warner transmission with the cast iron case weighs 38 pounds more than the more modern GM turbo 400 transmission. 

frenchyd
frenchyd MegaDork
10/27/22 7:31 a.m.
Woody (Forum Supportum) said:

Lovely. 

Thank you.  Not bad for a 50 year old car is it?   

frenchyd
frenchyd MegaDork
10/28/22 12:21 p.m.

Hello, my name is Frenchy and it's been 5 days since I last bought a Jaguar.  ( but my wife's still not talking to me ). 

yupididit
yupididit UltimaDork
10/28/22 12:51 p.m.

In reply to frenchyd :

That series 1 is nice. Hows the rust?

I'm about to buy another Mercedes, this time a big ole 450SEL 6.9! Wife said "mhm so where are you putting it"

Stampie
Stampie GRM+ Memberand MegaDork
10/28/22 1:07 p.m.

In reply to frenchyd :

Back when I was married to the ex she asked me for $20 to go up to the store on the corner.  When I gave it to her she joked that she was going to take my money and not come back.  I replied "If that's all it would take I would have given you $20 a long time ago."  Wonder why that marriage didn't work.

frenchyd
frenchyd MegaDork
10/28/22 1:40 p.m.

In reply to yupididit :

LOL   Right now the Driveway has my big cruiser in it ( which she can't get into anymore ) both of the Jaguars. And my truck and her car which should be  in the garage but that's taken up by my Jaguar Race car. ( and MG plus all my , tools, car parts, wood and woodworking equipment  etc)  

So her Honda is outside!

OOPS 

frenchyd
frenchyd MegaDork
10/28/22 1:43 p.m.
Stampie said:

In reply to frenchyd :

Back when I was married to the ex she asked me for $20 to go up to the store on the corner.  When I gave it to her she joked that she was going to take my money and not come back.  I replied "If that's all it would take I would have given you $20 a long time ago."  Wonder why that marriage didn't work.

I tried to eliminate that hassle by putting all my money into her account at the bank she works for. 
   Oops now anything I need to buy gets her perusal and comments.  " How come you spent $3 for lunch today?"

 

Robbie (Forum Supporter)
Robbie (Forum Supporter) GRM+ Memberand MegaDork
10/29/22 10:24 a.m.

I see you've come over to the 4door dark side!

Robbie (Forum Supporter)
Robbie (Forum Supporter) GRM+ Memberand MegaDork
10/29/22 10:25 a.m.

To be honest, I think the head gasket may have let go in mine so naturally I'm considering engine swaps. (V12 or supercharged 6)

frenchyd
frenchyd MegaDork
10/29/22 11:46 a.m.
Robbie (Forum Supporter) said:

I see you've come over to the 4door dark side!

I'm so embarrassed. My first ever 4 door.  Well to be honest It was getting too hard to get into the XJS. 
   Do yourself a favor, live fast die young leave a good looking corpse.  Old age is not for the fait  hearted!!!!! ;-) 

frenchyd
frenchyd MegaDork
10/29/22 12:02 p.m.

In reply to Robbie (Forum Supporter) :

Both will easily fit in. The V12 easier than a supercharged 6. Pull a engine and transmission from a rusty sedan or XJS. You'll want the ECU, tach. etc.  Get a 1978  or newer. (GM turbo 400 instead of the old Studebaker Borg Warner) (  81 or newer will be an HE which gets better fuel mileage )  Don't be afraid to buy a non running one 98% of the V12's I've gotten over the years are in perfect mechanical  shape.   A sensor  or the ignition module may be bad.  But all of those are cheap.  
The supercharged 6 will cost a lot more than a 5.3 V12  and the V12 would be more authentic.  Frankly I've never seen a supercharged 6 in an earlier chassis. I don't know where the interference points ( if any) would be. 
     However replacing the gasket is pretty darn easy compared to an engine swap.   But first try Re-torquing the head. Pull all the acorn nuts off and the washers. Run a die down the threads of the studs.  And a tap into  the Acorn nuts.   Make sure they go smoothly.    Then lubricate the studs before Re-torquing. 
Refill  the antifreeze and starting  it up.   Somebody in the past may have filled it with 87 octane instead of 91 octane  and the resulting preignition pinging loosens the  studs. 

TVR Scott
TVR Scott GRM+ Memberand SuperDork
10/29/22 1:52 p.m.

Cars look great.  Well-bought!

I'm honestly not in love with the idea of using one as a tow-vehicle though.  Your XJS isn't going to be crazy light, and the weight and wheelbase of that sedan is not particularly high.  Brakes?  Not huge.

I've done a bit of towing with undersized trucks and it always feels terrible.  Like tail-wagging-the-dog scary.  Like every modest downhill is terrifying.  You've got a truck - use that.  Save the sedan for cruising around town.

frenchyd
frenchyd MegaDork
10/29/22 3:01 p.m.

In reply to TVR Scott :

I'm guessing here now but I'd estimate I've got over 250,000 miles towing Jaguars. So I feel very confident. That plus all the trailers I've built. As S.I.R. 
   Actually I towed my Jaguar all over the country.  Over the Rockies to San Diego. , down to Florida with a S10 Blazer ( V6). That was in my tandem axle trailer  which was a lot heavier than the next trailer I intend to build.   It will weigh only 500 pounds maybe a hair less,  single axle. 
   The XJS's goal is 2700 pounds. Which is about 500 pounds heavier than the other Jaguar. 
    The real trick is alignment of the trailer wheels with the tow vehicle. It only takes an hour or so. To do but no one does it. They just hook up and go.  
    While the early  XJ6  has a solid front disk brake. The XJ12 came with vented 12" rotors and 4 cylinder calipers.  Big heavy brakes and they just bolt right on.  The rear brakes are also inboard disk brakes. So braking won't be a problem.  Plus the early XJ6 sedan is almost 800 pounds lighter than the later ones.  The V12 engine and transmission  is 68 pounds lighter than the original engine. Which is more stiffly sprung than later XJ6's. More  sports sedan than luxury car. 

frenchyd
frenchyd MegaDork
10/30/22 2:36 p.m.

If you look at the left front tire of the green one you'll note it is not only flat but the bead is broke.  Fill it with air and 2 days later it's back to looking like that.  
  I went in the trunk and the spare had never been used. Still had nubs on it.  Still held the air put in at the Pirrelli factory 37 years ago.   Think it's still good for 150 mph?  

frenchyd
frenchyd MegaDork
10/30/22 5:34 p.m.

Woody (Forum Supportum)
Woody (Forum Supportum) GRM+ Memberand MegaDork
10/30/22 7:04 p.m.

Good luck with these cars Frenchy. It will be fun to watch a Jaguar pro refurb a Jaguar. Please include lots of photos.

yupididit
yupididit UltimaDork
10/30/22 10:03 p.m.
Robbie (Forum Supporter) said:

To be honest, I think the head gasket may have let go in mine so naturally I'm considering engine swaps. (V12 or supercharged 6)

There's an x308 xjr being parted in Lynchburg VA 

frenchyd
frenchyd MegaDork
10/30/22 11:05 p.m.
Woody (Forum Supportum) said:

Good luck with these cars Frenchy. It will be fun to watch a Jaguar pro refurb a Jaguar. Please include lots of photos.

Thank You.
    It's gonna be a driver quality  not show. I might just buff and go, on the body.  At most a coat or two. Of lacquer. The rubber is absolute history.  And that's part of the problem.  Quality control was astonished poor. The factory had two different size windshields  and a total of 5  different size windshield gaskets. Because  the body was so inconsistent. ( outside vender built them)   There was a lot of lead used to make the different sized body panels fit together.  It was typical that the paint would have to be done 2-3 times before it passed final inspection  that car meets the definition of hand assembled.  The factory showed a movie of the machinist who finished the block work grabbing a big file and taking a few serious passes  on the block before pushing it down the assembly line. Shades of Henry Fords assembly line in the early 1930's  

       Plus I won't start on it until the Green one is off to college, and my Race car is done.  But crawling all over them both today I'm really happy with them both!!!  
    

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