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yupididit
yupididit UltraDork
11/18/18 11:59 a.m.
Knurled. said:
bmw88rider said:

Nice thing with the LFX is the exhaust packaging. Very clean and no need to account for extra room for headers. Other good thing is they are cheap and really light. Lighter than a BP miata engine. 


I would not classify the LFX as "cheap".  I have been looking into this engine as a swap and I am seeing engines without harnesses or PCMs for $1500-2500.  You need the PCM since it is a direct injected engine with VVT on all four cams, you're not Megasquirting this one.  By my estimation you're looking at $5000-6000 easily to do a swap, just for parts, including the transmission.  Not sure yet if the PCM will happiply play without all of its other friends on the network.

 

I do like the idea of the lack of exhaust options as an upside.  That is kind of like saying that Diesels are a good driver's engine because they don't rev high enough to overload a transmission's synchros.

Idk where you've been looking but I've been seeing the engines for $1k-1.5k with harness and PCM. And the 6sp manual for $600-1000 bucks. I've been looking because that's what's going in my conquest.

Knurled.
Knurled. GRM+ Memberand MegaDork
11/18/18 12:59 p.m.
yupididit said:
Knurled. said:
bmw88rider said:

Nice thing with the LFX is the exhaust packaging. Very clean and no need to account for extra room for headers. Other good thing is they are cheap and really light. Lighter than a BP miata engine. 


I would not classify the LFX as "cheap".  I have been looking into this engine as a swap and I am seeing engines without harnesses or PCMs for $1500-2500.  You need the PCM since it is a direct injected engine with VVT on all four cams, you're not Megasquirting this one.  By my estimation you're looking at $5000-6000 easily to do a swap, just for parts, including the transmission.  Not sure yet if the PCM will happiply play without all of its other friends on the network.

 

I do like the idea of the lack of exhaust options as an upside.  That is kind of like saying that Diesels are a good driver's engine because they don't rev high enough to overload a transmission's synchros.

Idk where you've been looking but I've been seeing the engines for $1k-1.5k with harness and PCM. And the 6sp manual for $600-1000 bucks. I've been looking because that's what's going in my conquest.

Where are you looking, and will they ship.  Business address with tractor-trailer access, with forklift on site.  Not interested in a manual, project requires automatic.

 

This is tangentially related to my thread inquiring about GM high-speed CAN speciation.

 

$1500 for a complete engine, plus say $800 for the trans, plus shifter (100?), custom driveshaft ($600-ish), and all the extra stuff to make a swap work (call it $1500 in parts) makes it reasonably viable.

bmw88rider
bmw88rider GRM+ Memberand SuperDork
11/18/18 9:00 p.m.

I guess I just have a different prospective.

 

6K for everything for a modern 300HP motors to me is cheap. It's not the 70's era where you can toss in a SBC into anything for $2000-$3000.

 

Shoot, my last 340 mopar street build was $3K for the motor and transmission rebuild then another $1K in odds and ends. That only put 355 HP to the rear tires. This gives you a nice light and clean package with great drivability overall. 

yupididit
yupididit UltraDork
11/18/18 9:10 p.m.

In reply to Knurled. :

Look in Texas

edizzle89
edizzle89 SuperDork
11/19/18 12:37 p.m.

I dont know a whole lot about VR6's but I keep seeing them somewhat regularly now swapped into all kinds of cool stuff. from what I've seen they take boost pretty well and it seems like there are a few options now to bolt them to rwd trans. They are pretty compact, might be kinda tall but they still seem to fit into a good number of chassis with some work.

 

RX7:

 

 

 

240sx s14:

 

 

350z:

 

 

miata:

 

I also found a RANDOM THREAD while googling and it looks like it might be a straight bolt in swap into a Audi B5 A4 chassis using the VW/Audi parts bin?

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