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spacecadet
spacecadet GRM+ Memberand Dork
7/27/19 8:44 a.m.
Dusterbd13-michael said:

Why not spring rubbers? 5.99 at the parts store. Took the spring rates on the miata from firm to ruptured kidney in about 10 minutes a corner.

Spring rubbers will take away travel. Not tons, but there would be a change to the range of motion and this rear spring on the civic isn't very long and there's not nearly enough rear travel where that won't create some side effect. 

shagles
shagles New Reader
7/27/19 9:36 a.m.
spacecadet said

I did some more digging. Looks like the rear UCA gets disconnected too but it's that simple.

Far as I can tell nobody makes a rear married coilover setup for the car. The packaging is just too tight. 

Ah got it. Could an inverted coilover be made to fit? Spring on the bottom instead of top?

Otherwise, what about different bump stops? I know bump stop tuning is a big thing for nationals level street class guys since they can't change springs

spacecadet
spacecadet GRM+ Memberand Dork
7/27/19 9:57 a.m.

In reply to shagles :

The thought was not having to touch the shock. 

Bump stop tuning is absolutely a thing. But my thought was to basically pull the rear spring on the road or track use and reinstall for autox use. Now I'm thinking maybe 2 different springs. 

This would make corner weighting a problem but otherwise could work. 

Lots of ideas to toss around on how to play with the car. 

shagles
shagles New Reader
7/27/19 10:14 a.m.

In reply to spacecadet :

I was thinking more of swap bump stops for street/autocross, but it looks like you have to pull the spring to swap them anyways so you might as well just swap springs. 

spacecadet
spacecadet GRM+ Memberand Dork
7/27/19 3:15 p.m.

Just relaxing this morning, checked the Pick n Pull inventory and there was a new civic coupe! 

EX with nav? Nooooooooo

My curiosity peaked I had to go look at it and see if there was a nav unit to be scored....

My friend the Maserati still at the front looking for a new home.. Now with a much much lower price... 

Found my friend and no joy.. 

but it had the chrome knobs like hazmat so I snagged them and then I looked up and realized that there was still a headliner in the car!!

And it's the proper color grey and it's a EX so it's a sunroof headliner! 

Got it pulled in no time at all.

As I'm removing it I realize.. The sunroof assembly is only 8 bolts and they want.... *checks website* $45!!! Score! They're $100-200 on eBay. Even if I flip this it's worth pulling! 

now home and added to the spares pile! 

Not a bad day! 

Dusterbd13-michael
Dusterbd13-michael MegaDork
7/27/19 3:40 p.m.

The travel limit eith rubbers: i dont see it. It essentially turns a coil into a dead coil. The rate would change, reducing travel in compression due to resistance. It would raise the car by a half inch or so, so you woupd sort of lose that in droop. Or am i missing something here?

shagles
shagles New Reader
7/27/19 5:33 p.m.

In reply to Dusterbd13-michael :

The rubber makes a coil dead by filling the space between, so that coil can't compress anymore, taking away 1 coils worth of travel. 

spacecadet
spacecadet GRM+ Memberand Dork
7/27/19 5:35 p.m.
Dusterbd13-michael said:

The travel limit eith rubbers: i dont see it. It essentially turns a coil into a dead coil. The rate would change, reducing travel in compression due to resistance. It would raise the car by a half inch or so, so you woupd sort of lose that in droop. Or am i missing something here?

The spring will not compress as much with the spring rubber as it would without it. And the motion ratio would amplify that loss by a factor of 3 as best I can tell because the spring is so far inboard.

mazdeuce - Seth
mazdeuce - Seth Mod Squad
7/27/19 6:07 p.m.

It's only an issue if you get coil bind. If you still have enough free compression to hit the bump stops before coil bind then it's fine. 

spacecadet
spacecadet GRM+ Memberand Dork
7/28/19 6:17 p.m.

In reply to mazdeuce - Seth :

Makes sense, But I don't believe the civic has a rear bump stop, at least not a normal one? 

 

spacecadet
spacecadet GRM+ Memberand Dork
7/28/19 6:22 p.m.

Well Hazmat is coming home soon, but not this weekend.. So I spent today hanging out at the local SCCA event grabbed a few rides and was just social and had fun with friends. 

UT Arlington FSAE Team showed up with their 2018 and 19 cars and Dr Bob their advisor did the ultimate arrive and drive and got the students to drag the cars out and he drove his Tornado(british company) GT40 clone. He brought it out last year for Texas Autox at the school and it was cool to see it again today. 

klodkrawler05
klodkrawler05 Reader
7/29/19 6:44 a.m.

Man that is a pretty car

spacecadet
spacecadet GRM+ Memberand Dork
7/29/19 10:38 a.m.

In reply to klodkrawler05 :

It's absolutely beautiful and the exhaust noise is very unique thanks to the crossover headers that 50/50 split the collectors on each side. 

spacecadet
spacecadet GRM+ Memberand Dork
8/2/19 12:40 a.m.

Happiness is having a plan... that plan involves a weekend of hanging with friends and a 800 mile roadtrip around the Texas triangle this weekend with me hopefully having hazmat on Sunday night back home here in DFW. 

DFW->Austin->Houston->DFW. 

I'm so flippin excited. One final detail to nail down in the morning, but otherwise everything is ready to go. 

Daylan C
Daylan C UberDork
8/2/19 4:50 a.m.

In reply to spacecadet :

Sounds awesome. Have fun and safe travels.

spacecadet
spacecadet GRM+ Memberand Dork
8/2/19 7:10 a.m.

Further proof Mrs. Mazdeuce is amazing. 

I contacted her this morning about coming to get hazmat and confirm a few details and she asks 

"you want me to run the car to the tire guy and get that nail taken care of in one of the tires?" 

 

mazdeuce - Seth
mazdeuce - Seth Mod Squad
8/2/19 7:12 a.m.

Mrs. Deuce is going to go try and sort the tires for you before the drive to Dallas. You remember what tire the screw was in? I 'think' it was right rear. My sketchy tire shop is legit so I'm sure he'll get it, but it's always easier to be able to point to it and say "that one". 

Hook the battery back up, make sure it starts and drives, tires.......anything else?

Edit: Ha! I was just texting my wife when you were typing that. laugh

Daylan C
Daylan C UberDork
8/2/19 7:19 a.m.

In reply to mazdeuce - Seth :

"My sketchy tire shop is legit" 

I like these words all in the same sentence.

spacecadet
spacecadet GRM+ Memberand Dork
8/2/19 7:23 a.m.
mazdeuce - Seth said:

Mrs. Deuce is going to go try and sort the tires for you before the drive to Dallas. You remember what tire the screw was in? I 'think' it was right rear. My sketchy tire shop is legit so I'm sure he'll get it, but it's always easier to be able to point to it and say "that one". 

Hook the battery back up, make sure it starts and drives, tires.......anything else?

Edit: Ha! I was just texting my wife when you were typing that. laugh

Nope, buddy in Clear lake is my ride from Austin to Houston cause we're floating the river in san marcos tomorrow and he's here in ft worth today so we're driving down to san marcos tonight. 

from your house sunday we're headed to his house to grab his old shocks and suspension to get the used rear shocks of his installed at my other buddy's place in clear lake since he has an electric impact that we need. 

and i didn't even remember that there was a nail in one of the tires. and you'd know better than I do since you had it on the lift last. 

mazdeuce - Seth
mazdeuce - Seth Mod Squad
8/2/19 7:33 a.m.

In reply to spacecadet :

Rad. Have a fun weekend and drive safely back home. Looking forward to seeing progress on the car. 

spacecadet
spacecadet GRM+ Memberand Dork
8/3/19 11:08 p.m.

 

I will watch this tomorrow, but I saw the thumbnail and immediately thought that this needed to be here.... 

spacecadet
spacecadet GRM+ Memberand Dork
8/4/19 1:12 a.m.

started watching, this is alll suuuuuuuuper relevant to hazmat. Seth and I did things a bit different. but we did do a lot of similar stuff. 

sleepyhead the buffalo
sleepyhead the buffalo GRM+ Memberand Mod Squad
8/4/19 3:51 a.m.

In reply to spacecadet :

This one seems relevant too...

 

spacecadet
spacecadet GRM+ Memberand Dork
8/4/19 9:38 a.m.

In reply to sleepyhead the buffalo :

maybe. I've watched that video. most of the mess in hazmat came from actual use and not sitting. so the truck video is very similar to what we did and what I need to do on the headliner. 

shagles
shagles New Reader
8/4/19 10:02 a.m.

In reply to spacecadet :

I've always liked Larry's videos. Theyve helped me out several times. 

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