lownslow
lownslow GRM+ Memberand Reader
6/24/24 4:37 p.m.

Colin Wood
Colin Wood Associate Editor
6/24/24 4:41 p.m.

Shame on them.

Datsun240ZGuy
Datsun240ZGuy MegaDork
6/24/24 4:51 p.m.

I think it's part of the game.  

Im not paying $20,000 over sticker and you argue and fight and get you down to $3,000-$5,000 over sticker.  Then later you realize you paid $3,000 over sticker.

dyintorace
dyintorace GRM+ Memberand UltimaDork
6/24/24 4:51 p.m.
Colin Wood said:

Shame on them.

Generally I would agree. But I've always wondered why everyone bags on dealers for marking up cars over MSRP but seems okay with individuals buying an in-demand car and immediately listing it on BaT (or elsewhere) and selling it for a big profit. Same behavior, right? 

Thomas
Thomas New Reader
6/24/24 5:01 p.m.
dyintorace said:
Colin Wood said:

Shame on them.

Generally I would agree. But I've always wondered why everyone bags on dealers for marking up cars over MSRP but seems okay with individuals buying an in-demand car and immediately listing it on BaT (or elsewhere) and selling it for a big profit. Same behavior, right? 

I (and at least a few others I've seen online) bag on individual flippers too.

But also, I don't think these flips make as much money as they appear, particularly with cheaper* cars like Type Rs. (*cheaper relative to things like limited production Ferraris). My hope is that all of these wishful flippers lose money and/or time on flips while OEMs still make a profit on sports cars and continue to produce them.

jharry3
jharry3 GRM+ Memberand Dork
6/24/24 5:42 p.m.

"There is a sucker born every minute"  

calteg
calteg SuperDork
6/25/24 11:40 a.m.

That's embarrassing, especially given the location. 

Drive 1.5 hours North or South and you're in much, much bigger markets where dealers are willing to sell for MSRP. CTR seems like the type of car folks are willing to drive for.

yupididit
yupididit UltimaDork
6/26/24 11:22 a.m.

They're available at MSRP in so many places. 

Datsun240ZGuy
Datsun240ZGuy MegaDork
6/26/24 11:29 a.m.

When the Acura Integra A-Spec manual trans came out I stopped at a dealer just to check it out as I wasn't buying that day but was curious about the car.

Manager asked if I was interested and I said I wasn't especially with that $10,000 adjustment adder.  Dude tells me he'll drop it if I buy that day and pay sticker.  I think it's all part of the pricing game. 

I love that Type S but what a butt load of money.....

DrBoost
DrBoost MegaDork
6/26/24 3:47 p.m.

I'd pay $20K over stick if they could make the car look good lol

Woody (Forum Supportum)
Woody (Forum Supportum) GRM+ Memberand MegaDork
6/26/24 9:34 p.m.

If I pay $20k over MSRP and then trade it in at the same scumbag dealership a year later, will they promise to give me $20k over trade in value for it?

Or will they tell me that I was foolish to overpay for it?

Datsun240ZGuy
Datsun240ZGuy MegaDork
6/26/24 9:50 p.m.

In reply to Woody (Forum Supportum) :

You need to purchase Gap Insurance cause they'll give you the book value and your 20k went away........play that Kansas rock song; Dust in the Wind....

Woody (Forum Supportum)
Woody (Forum Supportum) GRM+ Memberand MegaDork
6/26/24 9:54 p.m.

In reply to Datsun240ZGuy :

Will gap insurance cover your bad purchasing decision though?

Also, I really dislike that band.

Steve_Jones
Steve_Jones UltraDork
6/26/24 9:59 p.m.

I guess I don't see the harm in putting it out there, as no one has to buy it. It's an offer to sell for $x, why get insulted over it?

Flynlow
Flynlow Dork
6/27/24 1:07 a.m.
Steve_Jones said:

I guess I don't see the harm in putting it out there, as no one has to buy it. It's an offer to sell for $x, why get insulted over it?

Because they rot on the lot, the OEM sees low sales, and enthusiast cars get cancelled in favor of more $40K CUVs that they'll knock $1000 off MSRP.  Ironically sustaining volume on those and locking us all into this downward spiral of suckitude. :P

I would be totally in favor of letting dealers ask whatever they want if the informed consumer could buy direct from the OEM at MSRP. 

TurboFource
TurboFource Dork
6/27/24 6:30 a.m.

In reply to Woody (Forum Supportum) :

What is wrong with Kansas?

Appleseed
Appleseed MegaDork
6/27/24 9:50 a.m.

In reply to TurboFource :

Dust.

Wind.

DUDE!

Datsun240ZGuy
Datsun240ZGuy MegaDork
6/27/24 9:58 a.m.

In reply to TurboFource :

I got burned out with Kansas and Bad Company in the 1980's.

If I ever hear another Breakfast with the Beatles radio show I might shoot myself.  

Snowdoggie (Forum Supporter)
Snowdoggie (Forum Supporter) UltraDork
6/27/24 10:25 a.m.

Isn't Waco where that HGTV house flipping show is based? Maybe they are just hoping to catch some of that crazy money flying around down there.

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