pontiacstogo
pontiacstogo New Reader
12/3/18 2:40 p.m.
Mr. Lee
Mr. Lee GRM+ Memberand PowerDork
12/3/18 11:59 p.m.

That's far too close to me. Glad I'm broke!

white_fly
white_fly HalfDork
12/4/18 9:33 a.m.

Is it a good deal? I looked at it but it didn't seem amazing. What does the 1LE package even include on these cars?

classicJackets
classicJackets HalfDork
12/4/18 9:53 a.m.

1993 brought the LT1, 6 speed and stiffer fourth gen chassis into the 1LE history. Unlike the thirdgen 1LE, the fourthgen had the same brakes as the other V8 F-bodies. The suspension was the main attraction in '93. Featuring stiffer springs at 360# linear springs up front and 130-160# progressive springs in the rear. Also included was a 21mm rear sway bar, 32mm hollow front sway bar, higher durometer control arm & panhard bushings and a solid rubber transmission mount. All '93 F-bodies with a V6 received the 275 hp LT1. Performance was the sole purpose of the 1993 1LE. These cars were sold without power accessories, T-tops or air conditioning, and aluminum drive shaft that was part of the thirdgen 1LE package is mysteriously gone in '93. Shock absorbers were DeCarbon with 1LE specific valving. 19 Camaro Z28's & only 3 Firebird Formula's were equipped with this option in 1993.

1994 & 1995 are the same as 1993 with a couple exceptions. The LT1 was converted to sequential mass air fuel injection from the batch fire speed density system used in 1993 and the rear sway bar was reduced to the 19mm bar used on all V8 F-bodies. 1995 cars sold in California were equipped with dual catalytic converters and power increased to 285 hp. In 1994 135 Camaro Z28's and no Firebird 1LE's are built! In 1995 106 Camaro Z28's and 2 Firebird 1LE's are built

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white_fly
white_fly HalfDork
12/4/18 10:55 a.m.

So, it's rare, but there's not much to it.

Mr. Lee
Mr. Lee GRM+ Memberand PowerDork
12/4/18 2:14 p.m.

In reply to white_fly :

Nah not much to it. But I cut my teeth in motorsports with a third gen F-body. Really enjoyed the 4th gens that I've driven, and always wanted to do one up for myself with a manual trans. Never had the time or money when I had the time when I was younger. (still that way today...) A relatively unmolested slick top 4th gen is becoming harder and harder to find.

The LS cars get all the press, but the LT1 cars are still a high 12/very low 13 second car with a competent driver, decent tires, and a good launch. More than enough to get you into trouble. So what if you need more than a head/cam swap to get over 500 hp out of em. 

pontiacstogo
pontiacstogo New Reader
12/5/18 8:27 a.m.

Aside from the modest suspension changes, the biggest difference you'll see with a 4th gen 1LE is what they didn't come with standard i.e. no fog lights, no t-tops, no A/C (before 1996), manual windows, base stereo etc.  The production numbers are low enough to make them relatively rare, but that doesn't necessarily make them valuable.  I guess if you were on the hunt for a 4th gen to begin with, finding a 1LE might be a bonus.

If it were closer, and not completely trashed, I would buy this example in a heartbeat - because LT1, T56, 1LE and purple smiley

spitfirebill
spitfirebill MegaDork
12/5/18 10:42 a.m.

Don't the transmissions alone sell for about that much? 

pimpm3
pimpm3 SuperDork
12/5/18 11:33 a.m.

The lt1 t56's are less valuable because of the cost to convert them to work with an ls1.  They sell for around $1000.00 ish.  I bought one earlier this year for 800.00

The car isn't a terrible deal.  If it were closer I would take a look at it.

Lugnut
Lugnut Dork
12/5/18 1:38 p.m.

What does this mean?

All '93 F-bodies with a V6 received the 275 hp LT1.

pontiacstogo
pontiacstogo New Reader
12/5/18 3:36 p.m.
Lugnut said:

What does this mean?

All '93 F-bodies with a V6 received the 275 hp LT1.

I'm guessing that's a typo and should have read V8 instead of V6.

pontiacstogo
pontiacstogo New Reader
12/8/18 7:00 a.m.

Interesting that the add content no longer includes any reference to this being a 1LE.  Old add read;

1995 1le Camaro . 1 of 106 built in 1995 . 6spd manual 5.7 v8 , msd distributor 83,000 miles. Mostly highway . I bought it with 48,000. I will not take less than 3000. That's my lowest price. Has Grantelli Motorsports rear control arms, subframe connectors and pan hard bar. 17x9.5 in front with good 275/40 tires. Rear are 17x11 with 315 tires which need to be replaced. Comes with Crome stock wheels for spares and 2 painted stock wheels. Clear coat is peeling,dash is cracked but has a cover.

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