Don't care, still want it. I'd immediately paint two long black stripes out of the auction and drive around Ferris Bueler style.
It's only original once, and cars were made to be driven not stared at.
I'd rather have dull original paint.
I could really care less about Pebble Beach and concours type events in general. Not my scene.
An all original that has been maintained properly shouldn't "have to be restored". Like the one in the article or one in very good shape. Or one that just needs work in some areas should just have the work in that area done. However, if it's beat up, barely running then that is when a complete restoration comes into affect. IMO
Cars were meant to be driven and I couldn't care less about numbers matching/originality, hurrah for modern upgrades.
My berkeleysack is empty. I cannot give even one little one for concourse events.
For this, I like patina to a point. A well loved example like the one in the article definitely keep it original. There is a point where the car falls into the please restore me category. It's kind of like a lot of things. Hard to exactly describe but you know it when you see it. 
Concourse events make me gag. I see them as the epitome of everything that is wrong with the car hobby. Think automotive taxidermy.
The events need to take a page from Hot Rod's Speedweek where all the cars must drive a 500 mile loop before the show and exhibit in whatever condition they rolled in.
But that's just me.
NOHOME wrote: Think automotive taxidermy.
Brilliant. I'm stealing that and not giving credit where it is due when people ask if I just made that up now.
NOHOME wrote: The events need to take a page from Hot Rod's Speedweek where all the cars must drive a 500 mile loop before the show and exhibit in whatever condition they rolled in. But that's just me.
hear, hear........
Back in the 90s when I was into the whole Mustang resto thing.... there were cars that were trailer-ed to their spot, pushed off the trailer and then at the events end, pushed back on to the trailer.... 
I prefer patina on the outside but also prefer refurbished mechanicals and electrics on the inside.
bmw88rider wrote: For this, I like patina to a point. A well loved example like the one in the article definitely keep it original. There is a point where the car falls into the please restore me category. It's kind of like a lot of things. Hard to exactly describe but you know it when you see it.
Well said! Had that thought but couldn't put it down as well as you did.
T.J. wrote: I could really care less about Pebble Beach and concours type events in general. Not my scene. </blockquot I feel the exact same way.
I really don't get this patina thing in most cases. My first Porsche 356 that I purchased for $500 at age twenty looked something like this. I did the body myselfand had it painted, but not to concours standard I assure you. Nowadays a car like this is supposed to be considered cool? One of my TR8's is perfect patina with a flawless body and badly faded original paint. Someday I intend to repaint it.
I can enjoy looking at a car like that if it was just pulled out of a barn for the first time in 50 years.
i could look at it also,for awhile, but knowing me, i'd have to start some improvments!
rich people would like to return to the womb, but it aint gonna happen, they get old and die. to bad they set the prices for material things!
When I was racing regularly at Laguna Seca in the vintage races, I sometimes went down to Pebble beach to lookie-loo. Such a huge contrast between us (who use the cars to an often ridiculous degree) and the pristine time capsule cars.
I concluded that it was nice that someone did that sort of thing if only so I could look at an original restored car and feel what they much have been like when new, but I also concluded that it wouldn't be me ever doing that sort of restoration - just not my thing.
moparman76_69 wrote: It's only original once, and cars were made to be driven not stared at.
But they can be worn out over and over again. Original is only good if preserved. Original and neglected or original and worn out are bad. What wears out cars? Driving them 
I saw that 356 at Monterey. That was too far gone for me. I would restore it. That said, it is a shame to restore a well cared for car, that is all original.
And it is so hard to do just a little... new seat covers look terrible with weathered carpet, etc.
Unlike a lot of you, I don't mind a concours. It gives a benchmark for the best cars. Personally, I'd much rather be at the track or a road trip, but I am glad some people do want to make perfect original cars.
If I had a choice, I'd choose a very nice original, but if it wasn't so nice, there's too much I'd want to do. Maybe its me, but I have to have nice paint, and like Tim, that leads to the interior, and then the engine bay would have to be nice, etc., etc. My first race car I built was so nice it looked like a show car, and of course, my second one ended up the same way. Its a sickness really.
In reply to racerdave600:
Not really a concours guy, but do appreciate the concept. I do feel trailer queens should be forced to be driven at the event and trailer queens should not be judged with cars that are driven there unless they lose points. Went to a car show one time and some guy had a 240Z that never left the trailer except to be parked for the show. Immaculate car, but c'mon, its a 240Z for frig's sake.
I do agree with you TR8owner about the being driven part. As for the 240Z, I saw the first or second one brought into the country being restored. From what I remember, they were already at $100k on the resto and counting. If I were doing that for a show quality car, I'd have trouble driving it too.
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