Nitroracer
Nitroracer SuperDork
1/1/11 4:03 p.m.

After watching wheeler dealers earlier today (Nice Pugeot 205 GTI) I went browsing around on craigslist like any sane person would. I ran across an 83' Civic Sport and while it may not be the best candidate for me (nonrunner, sitting for 10 years) I am still curious about them. It sounds like honda's first attempt at a sportier civic model. Neat cars? Rare? Worth anything?

gjz30075
gjz30075 Reader
1/1/11 5:15 p.m.

Can't answer your questions but I like it. Craigslist link for details? No, not going to buy but just curious.

Nitroracer
Nitroracer SuperDork
1/1/11 5:24 p.m.

That picture above is just a nice example of one I found.

http://southjersey.craigslist.org/cto/2138112845.html

irish44j
irish44j Dork
1/1/11 5:32 p.m.

I asked a while back about an '81 civic, and there were a few responses in the thread. Oddly enough, that very same picture was posted in it....

Here you go:

http://grassrootsmotorsports.com/forum/grm/learn-me-on-81-civic-2-door-hatch-cvcc15l/29086/page1/

integraguy
integraguy Dork
1/1/11 5:50 p.m.

You are correct in your assessment that this was Honda's 1st attempt at a "sportier" Civic. I rode in one of these (owned by a co-worker) when it was nearly new. While comparable to any other Civic for driving and performance, they do have a tach, if I'm not mistaken, and may even have a few other "special" features. They do NOT however, have any kind of engine upgrade ala the later Civic Si.

I should state that I am a bit prejudiced about Civics as I've owned 3 and also owned an Integra. I've also driven a few of the generations of Civic that I didn't own. (Nothing newer than 2000, tho.)

With decent tires, these are fun little cars, tho I still prefer the Ford Fiesta that I owned before any of the Civics.

For LESS than a grand, this is a screaming bargain...even if you have to do an engine-transmission transplant.

Woody
Woody GRM+ Memberand SuperDork
1/1/11 6:39 p.m.

Rare? Kind of.

Worth anything? Not really.

But if you want it, act quickly or it will disappear.

vwcorvette
vwcorvette GRM+ Memberand Reader
1/2/11 3:15 p.m.

Almost bought one like that in the photo as my first car back on 89. Ended up with a plain 83 1200 with automatic. That is until I blew the engine and got a 79 1200 4 speed. Fun little cars all.

ZOO
ZOO GRM+ Memberand Dork
1/2/11 4:51 p.m.

I'm old enough to have driven one -- and I don't remember being either overwhelmed or underwhlemed by it -- just whelmed, I guess. A GTI is a better car all around from a performance standpoint. But, if the price is right, and it checks out, I think you'd enjoy it. They are pretty light and simple.

ZOO
ZOO GRM+ Memberand Dork
1/2/11 4:53 p.m.

The "sport" part is a tach, exterior trim, and different seats,if I recall correctly. $750 makes it pretty desirable.

Woody
Woody GRM+ Memberand SuperDork
1/2/11 5:19 p.m.

The S was only available in Black or Red.

Streetwiseguy
Streetwiseguy HalfDork
1/2/11 5:48 p.m.
Woody wrote: The S was only available in Black or Red.

I don't remember the red ones. Saw a couple of black ones around here.

I like them, less for the quality or performance of the car, more for it being the first step on a fairly cool ladder.

Woody
Woody GRM+ Memberand SuperDork
1/2/11 6:05 p.m.

It was a dark red, almost maroon. I think I have the original Honda dealer sales training info on them.

qdseeker
qdseeker New Reader
1/2/11 6:11 p.m.
Woody wrote: It was a dark red, almost maroon. I think I have the original Honda dealer sales training info on them.

It wouldn't be almost maroon. It will be more of a fire engine red. I had an 83 maroon Civic back in 1987. The Civic S models weren't rare then as they are now. Of course most of the 2nd gen Civics you don't see much now.

I'd definitely pick it up if I could.

Woody
Woody GRM+ Memberand SuperDork
1/2/11 6:14 p.m.

I know the DX maroon as well, as a neighbor still has one. I guess that dark red would be a better description.

integraguy
integraguy Dork
1/3/11 7:12 p.m.

A co-worker had a red one, and that's how I knew that an "S" had a tach...wasn't completely sure about the different seat covering material (I sort of remember a check or houndstooth pattern). I think, but am not sure, that the wheels may be 1/2 inch wider, to accomodate a lower profile tire. I think Civics of this vintage had a 155X75 tire, while the "S" had a 165X70 tire. i can't remember much else as far as "special features".

Due to the rarity of 2nd gen Civics, this is a bargain at $750...even if it doesn't run.

gamby
gamby SuperDork
1/3/11 7:17 p.m.

There's this to wet your whistle:

http://www.history.com/shows/top-gear/videos/rutledges-project-car#rutledges-project-car

AngryCorvair
AngryCorvair GRM+ Memberand SuperDork
1/4/11 9:50 a.m.

i worked in the used car dept of the local honda dealer when these cars were only a couple years old. by the standards of the day, they were fun to drive. today, they win style points and probably still kick a$$ in fuel economy, but in all other measurables they will suck compared to just about anything on four wheels.

they're pretty bulletproof. i'd drain and refill the gas, do a stomp test on the brake pedal, and put a battery in it. then hook up a tow rope to the front and drag it at about 10 mph in first gear with the ignition on until it started. ( i used to have to do that with my '53 chevy if it sat longer than a few months, because the starter was weak.)

ddavidv
ddavidv SuperDork
1/4/11 4:55 p.m.

I know two people that had these. They were pretty quick (they were light), had a 3bbl carb, slick 5 speed and a nicer interior than pedestrian Civics. It was quicker than my Fiesta, but not by a lot. Both of the ones I knew went 200,000. The cam failed on one due to lackluster maintenance. I haven't seen one in forever.

That idiot who can't spell
That idiot who can't spell SuperDork
1/4/11 8:30 p.m.

Is there any kinda of performance parts available for the older Civics?

Buzz Killington
Buzz Killington HalfDork
1/4/11 8:41 p.m.

love those old civics.

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