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oldopelguy
oldopelguy Dork
8/22/12 9:03 a.m.

Advance Adapters still sells bell-housings for Chev v-8 to Toyota trans. Probably a less expensive option than T-56, even with all the little bits.

Tyler H
Tyler H GRM+ Memberand Dork
8/22/12 9:26 a.m.

I think the 3SGTE aluminum flywheels (Fidanza) and clutches will work on the 1UZ if you press off the steel ring gear and flip it over to accommodate the starter being in the valley (different mesh on the ring gear.)

dculberson
dculberson Dork
8/22/12 9:30 a.m.

Lots of good info here!

turboswede
turboswede GRM+ Memberand PowerDork
8/22/12 9:35 a.m.

$180 adapter, 1UZFE to W58:

http://seattle.craigslist.org/see/pts/3203502091.html

This, W58 transmission, 3SGTE flywheel (maybe), clutch, etc. and you're rocking.

Like this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KV7ENJvWAGc

92CelicaHalfTrac
92CelicaHalfTrac MegaDork
8/22/12 10:01 a.m.

I kinda want to buy that adapter just to have....

singleslammer
singleslammer Reader
8/22/12 12:17 p.m.

In reply to turboswede:

You have to drill out the bolt holes on the 3sgte flywheel to make it fit the 1uz crank. You will also need to figure something out for the throwout bearing most people seem to go with the hydraulic TO similar to the t56. These is also the issue with the starter ring. You can press if off and flip it (I have never seem any more details than this) or put a bevel on the engine side of the ring to make the starter engage properly.

singleslammer
singleslammer Reader
8/22/12 12:18 p.m.

In reply to 92CelicaHalfTrac:

There is a guy that sells CAD files to cut your own for $25 and it seems the going rate for the machine work in steel is around $100 dollars. Just saying.

Bobzilla
Bobzilla SuperDork
8/22/12 12:20 p.m.

after listening to my LR4 scream to 5800rpm through the K&N FIPK and out through the Magnaflow catback this morning under a large overpass..... I have to vote for the LSx. Always. Every time. The sounds it made were just what I needed to hear after 4 months of fighting the 'vette and being 7:25am.

dculberson
dculberson Dork
8/22/12 12:57 p.m.
Bobzilla wrote: after listening to my LR4 scream to 5800rpm through the K&N FIPK and out through the Magnaflow catback this morning under a large overpass..... I have to vote for the LSx. Always. Every time. The sounds it made were just what I needed to hear after 4 months of fighting the 'vette and being 7:25am.

Did you get it back on the road?!

Oh, and while I don't doubt an LSx sounds awesome, a 1uzfe can sound pretty awesome too. They're both v8s so you've got a big leg up on a lot of other motors out there for sound.

92CelicaHalfTrac
92CelicaHalfTrac MegaDork
8/22/12 12:59 p.m.
dculberson wrote:
Bobzilla wrote: after listening to my LR4 scream to 5800rpm through the K&N FIPK and out through the Magnaflow catback this morning under a large overpass..... I have to vote for the LSx. Always. Every time. The sounds it made were just what I needed to hear after 4 months of fighting the 'vette and being 7:25am.
Did you get it back on the road?! Oh, and while I don't doubt an LSx sounds awesome, a 1uzfe can sound pretty awesome too. They're both v8s so you've got a big leg up on a lot of other motors out there for sound.

Nah he's talking about his Silverado.

And here's where i say something mildly amusing in a joking manner about the terms "5800rpm" and "screaming" being used in the same sentence.

oldtin
oldtin SuperDork
8/22/12 1:13 p.m.
Curmudgeon
Curmudgeon MegaDork
8/22/12 1:49 p.m.

The 1UZ was based on Toyota's CART/IRL design which explains why the bottom end has enough main bearing bolts to hold a suspension bridge up. The damn thing is way overbuilt for passenger car applications which explains why they are cheap in junkyards: no one ever has to replace them.

92CelicaHalfTrac
92CelicaHalfTrac MegaDork
8/22/12 1:50 p.m.
Curmudgeon wrote: The 1UZ was based on Toyota's CART/IRL design which explains why the bottom end has enough main bearing bolts to hold a suspension bridge up. The damn thing is way overbuilt for passenger car applications which explains why they are cheap in junkyards: no one ever has to replace them.

Stop typing these things. I'll go out and buy one to build/clean for... something later on at some point.

singleslammer
singleslammer Reader
8/22/12 1:59 p.m.

In reply to 92CelicaHalfTrac:

DO IT!! I have had the same thought. If you can get it megasquirted on a table then find any RWD chassis to make a home for it. Then add large turbos for fun!

Curmudgeon
Curmudgeon MegaDork
8/22/12 2:02 p.m.
92CelicaHalfTrac wrote:
Curmudgeon wrote: The 1UZ was based on Toyota's CART/IRL design which explains why the bottom end has enough main bearing bolts to hold a suspension bridge up. The damn thing is way overbuilt for passenger car applications which explains why they are cheap in junkyards: no one ever has to replace them.
Stop typing these things. I'll go out and buy one to build/clean for... something later on at some point.

I keep threatening to shove one in the Jensenator. That's why I have found all these links n' crap.

Bobzilla
Bobzilla SuperDork
8/22/12 2:14 p.m.
92CelicaHalfTrac wrote:
dculberson wrote:
Bobzilla wrote: after listening to my LR4 scream to 5800rpm through the K&N FIPK and out through the Magnaflow catback this morning under a large overpass..... I have to vote for the LSx. Always. Every time. The sounds it made were just what I needed to hear after 4 months of fighting the 'vette and being 7:25am.
Did you get it back on the road?! Oh, and while I don't doubt an LSx sounds awesome, a 1uzfe can sound pretty awesome too. They're both v8s so you've got a big leg up on a lot of other motors out there for sound.
Nah he's talking about his Silverado. And here's where i say something mildly amusing in a joking manner about the terms "5800rpm" and "screaming" being used in the same sentence.

That's only because of the "big ugly" intake and ECU limiter. Throw on an LS6 intake and a nice cam/tune and it's a nice 7000rpm V8 that is durable, powerful and frugal.

And no, Barbie is still not right. Driver's head came off today:

Can you tell which one is not firing?

92CelicaHalfTrac
92CelicaHalfTrac MegaDork
8/22/12 2:15 p.m.
Bobzilla wrote:
92CelicaHalfTrac wrote:
dculberson wrote:
Bobzilla wrote: after listening to my LR4 scream to 5800rpm through the K&N FIPK and out through the Magnaflow catback this morning under a large overpass..... I have to vote for the LSx. Always. Every time. The sounds it made were just what I needed to hear after 4 months of fighting the 'vette and being 7:25am.
Did you get it back on the road?! Oh, and while I don't doubt an LSx sounds awesome, a 1uzfe can sound pretty awesome too. They're both v8s so you've got a big leg up on a lot of other motors out there for sound.
Nah he's talking about his Silverado. And here's where i say something mildly amusing in a joking manner about the terms "5800rpm" and "screaming" being used in the same sentence.
That's only because of the "big ugly" intake and ECU limiter. Throw on an LS6 intake and a nice cam/tune and it's a nice 7000rpm V8 that is durable, powerful and frugal.

Get on that, then.

Bobzilla
Bobzilla SuperDork
8/22/12 2:20 p.m.

Not for the truck.... but is in on my "to do list" of engines to stuff into something fun.

Maybe I should snag one and stuff it into a B-body? Cage, monster meats, cam'd 4.8 with a FAST intake and 90mm T/B and tuned to turn to 7500rpms or so.... that could be fun.

Strike_Zero
Strike_Zero Dork
8/22/12 2:32 p.m.

^ I could dig that . . .

1UZ Hilux . . . with ITBs

DaewooOfDeath
DaewooOfDeath Dork
8/22/12 3:01 p.m.

9300 rpm 1UZ = WOW

How much do you think a build like that would cost?

Jaynen
Jaynen Reader
8/22/12 3:06 p.m.

with ITBs...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ba8sT2BQ4uc

chandlerGTi
chandlerGTi HalfDork
8/22/12 8:12 p.m.

The other think to look for are wrecked lexus, around here you can buy a hit in the back running driving for 1k or less. I have evil thoughts after measuring the engine bay of the BiTurbo......

Ranger50
Ranger50 UltraDork
8/22/12 8:49 p.m.
Curmudgeon wrote: The 1UZ was based on Toyota's CART/IRL design which explains why the bottom end has enough main bearing bolts to hold a suspension bridge up. The damn thing is way overbuilt for passenger car applications which explains why they are cheap in junkyards: no one ever has to replace them.

So.... How much nitrous can it handle?

stafford1500
stafford1500 GRM+ Memberand New Reader
8/23/12 7:03 a.m.

Ranger50,
The bottom end is very stout, but the rods got thinner (weaker) as the engine was developed. The strongest rods are the first 4 years or so (upto 95). There are planty of COMMENTS that the stock bottom end will hold 600HP, but that has not been documented as a fact. Looking at the bottom end, I would think it could handle a fair shot of nitrous...

Curmudgeon,
This engine was not developed from the CART engine! I know the Toyota CART engine was good (personal experience), but the Lexus engine was designed for production cars. There is a V12 variant out there (1GZ - 5.0L). The 3UZ (4.3L V8) was the bassis for the Toyota/Lexus Daytona Prototype engine. That was built to make nearly 600HP. They did later open that engine up to nearly 5.0L.
Fun fact that could probably cross to the OHV vs OHC thread is that the Toyota CART engine, in its final form could rev to 18000 on steel valve springs and was raced with the rev limiter at 17k for a few events. Man I loved that engine...!

92CelicaHalfTrac
92CelicaHalfTrac MegaDork
8/23/12 7:19 a.m.

There's a Celica GT4 grpA in Australia that's been swapped with a 1uzfe, now twin turbo, still stock motor.

On only 17psi... This comes out to 591whp.

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