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alfadriver
alfadriver Reader
2/11/09 12:05 p.m.

Finally official, introduced at the Chicago Auto Show...

http://jalopnik.com/5147709/2010-ford-taurus-sho-the-sleeper-awakens?skyline=true&s=i

Discuss.

And I'll try to answer questions, as possible.

But for the FAQ.

No manual- just paddle shifting auto.

unique suspension tuning (I've not actually driven a REAL SHO- just cars with the correct powertrain).

AWD only.

I think those are the most common points....

And I know some people won't like it, and that's just fine. I kinda doubt many on this board is really in the market for a brand new perfornace sedan anyway.

Eric

neon4891
neon4891 SuperDork
2/11/09 12:14 p.m.

365hp AWD, think it will have the same kind of depriciation as the recent taurus, $10k used at 2 years old? Or even at 5 years.

ignorant
ignorant SuperDork
2/11/09 12:15 p.m.
alfadriver wrote: No manual- just paddle shifting auto.

sad

did,'t the original row your own...

Strizzo
Strizzo Dork
2/11/09 12:17 p.m.

ok, what moron put the trunk release button on the dash right next to the radio? is the symmetry it provides really necessary?

other than that it looks good. can't wait to see what kind of power it'll make once the aftermarket gets ahold of them.

alfadriver
alfadriver Reader
2/11/09 12:18 p.m.
neon4891 wrote: 365hp AWD, think it will have the same kind of depriciation as the recent taurus, $10k used at 2 years old? Or even at 5 years.

Not to be very specific, but there's data to indicate that this trend is actually going away. Which is very refreshing.

When you say recent Taurus, you really mean 2004, which was the last of the old body style. The new ones are holding their own a lot better.

E-

alfadriver
alfadriver Reader
2/11/09 12:21 p.m.
ignorant wrote:
alfadriver wrote: No manual- just paddle shifting auto.
sad did,'t the original row your own...

As sad as it is, I doubt it's a real hinderence in that market. Heck, Mercedes doesn't offer any manual on any US product.... But I just don't see that much appeal to a very large sedan and a real manual. Small cars, yes. I'd like to know how many many 5 series are autos v manual.

E-

neon4891
neon4891 SuperDork
2/11/09 12:31 p.m.
alfadriver wrote:
neon4891 wrote: 365hp AWD, think it will have the same kind of depriciation as the recent taurus, $10k used at 2 years old? Or even at 5 years.
Not to be very specific, but there's data to indicate that this trend is actually going away. Which is very refreshing. When you say recent Taurus, you really mean 2004, which was the last of the old body style. The new ones are holding their own a lot better. E-

well, yes, that era and the ones before it. My mother's last 2 cars, 1-3 year old tauruses sub 30k miles, $9,999. The current one is an '07 that started out as a rental

DILYSI Dave
DILYSI Dave SuperDork
2/11/09 1:15 p.m.
alfadriver wrote:
ignorant wrote:
alfadriver wrote: No manual- just paddle shifting auto.
sad did,'t the original row your own...
As sad as it is, I doubt it's a real hinderence in that market. Heck, Mercedes doesn't offer any manual on any US product.... But I just don't see that much appeal to a very large sedan and a real manual. Small cars, yes. I'd like to know how many many 5 series are autos v manual. E-

But Mercedes completely gave away the enthusiast market with that decision. Right now, if someone wants a high performance mid size sedan with a manual, their only choice is BMW.

My 540i with the 6 speed was spectacular. I wouldn't own it's automatic counterpart though.

Regardless - it looks like you've got a winner on your hands. Perhaps after the first year or two a manual option will be added, like Lexus has done in the past.

ignorant
ignorant SuperDork
2/11/09 1:33 p.m.
alfadriver wrote:
ignorant wrote:
alfadriver wrote: No manual- just paddle shifting auto.
sad did,'t the original row your own...
As sad as it is, I doubt it's a real hinderence in that market. Heck, Mercedes doesn't offer any manual on any US product.... But I just don't see that much appeal to a very large sedan and a real manual. Small cars, yes. I'd like to know how many many 5 series are autos v manual. E-

I understand the reasons.. still makes me sad.. hopefully they add it... I'm moving back up north and awd family rig with some power and a manual trans would be nice..

fastEddie
fastEddie Dork
2/11/09 1:33 p.m.

I like the Track Pack option!

Too bad it doesn't include things like weight reduction.

96DXCivic
96DXCivic Reader
2/11/09 1:53 p.m.
DILYSI Dave wrote:
alfadriver wrote:
ignorant wrote:
alfadriver wrote: No manual- just paddle shifting auto.
sad did,'t the original row your own...
As sad as it is, I doubt it's a real hinderence in that market. Heck, Mercedes doesn't offer any manual on any US product.... But I just don't see that much appeal to a very large sedan and a real manual. Small cars, yes. I'd like to know how many many 5 series are autos v manual. E-
But Mercedes completely gave away the enthusiast market with that decision. Right now, if someone wants a high performance mid size sedan with a manual, their only choice is BMW. My 540i with the 6 speed was spectacular. I wouldn't own it's automatic counterpart though. Regardless - it looks like you've got a winner on your hands. Perhaps after the first year or two a manual option will be added, like Lexus has done in the past.

What about the Black Series cars or even the normal AMGs? Those aren't cars for enthusiast?

EricM
EricM HalfDork
2/11/09 1:56 p.m.

and on top of everythign else, it is pretty fugly

P71
P71 GRM+ Memberand Dork
2/11/09 1:59 p.m.

I like it. Twin-turbo V6 making 365HP stock with AWD? Awesome!

JFX001
JFX001 HalfDork
2/11/09 2:06 p.m.

I like it. It would be a toss up between the SHO and the Flex for me....if I weren't in cheap mode.

pete240z
pete240z HalfDork
2/11/09 2:22 p.m.

$38,000 ????

DILYSI Dave
DILYSI Dave SuperDork
2/11/09 2:32 p.m.
96DXCivic wrote:
DILYSI Dave wrote:
alfadriver wrote:
ignorant wrote:
alfadriver wrote: No manual- just paddle shifting auto.
sad did,'t the original row your own...
As sad as it is, I doubt it's a real hinderence in that market. Heck, Mercedes doesn't offer any manual on any US product.... But I just don't see that much appeal to a very large sedan and a real manual. Small cars, yes. I'd like to know how many many 5 series are autos v manual. E-
But Mercedes completely gave away the enthusiast market with that decision. Right now, if someone wants a high performance mid size sedan with a manual, their only choice is BMW. My 540i with the 6 speed was spectacular. I wouldn't own it's automatic counterpart though. Regardless - it looks like you've got a winner on your hands. Perhaps after the first year or two a manual option will be added, like Lexus has done in the past.
What about the Black Series cars or even the normal AMGs? Those aren't cars for enthusiast?

Those are for hard parkers that are pulling down 6 figures.

DILYSI Dave
DILYSI Dave SuperDork
2/11/09 2:33 p.m.
EricM wrote: and on top of everythign else, it is pretty fugly

I think it looks good. It's got a little too much shnozz on it, but I assume that's due to the retarded European pedestrian impact laws.

alfadriver
alfadriver Reader
2/11/09 3:06 p.m.
pete240z wrote: $38,000 ????

It does seem high, but people are paying $40k plus for an F150.

And (good news for us), there's some movement in the premium pricing for Fords (as in real consumers paying MORE for some Fords with specific features). Freaking finally (as in it's about time we got our act together).

E-

confuZion3
confuZion3 Dork
2/11/09 3:13 p.m.

I just saw two Taurus SHOs in a junk yard this weekend. The one I looked inside was an auto. I seriously wanted to buy one just for the engine--that thing is beautiful!

PaulY
PaulY New Reader
2/11/09 3:16 p.m.

I'm not sold on the design. Upfront it's like a tweaked mondeo except not nearly as good looking. In the back it almost has the side profile of the 300c. It's like they were atempting a merger of the euro and americal styles by ramming them into each other.

On the other hand it is good to see the SHO is back, I'd be interested to see it compared against a G8 GT.

jstein77
jstein77 HalfDork
2/11/09 3:54 p.m.
PaulY wrote: I'm not sold on the design. Upfront it's like a tweaked mondeo except not nearly as good looking. In the back it almost has the side profile of the 300c. It's like they were atempting a merger of the euro and americal styles by ramming them into each other. On the other hand it is good to see the SHO is back, I'd be interested to see it compared against a G8 GT.

On the other hand, it's about a million times more interesting than the 2009 Taurus.

carguy123
carguy123 Dork
2/11/09 4:00 p.m.

It reads much nicer than it looks.

iceracer
iceracer Reader
2/11/09 6:41 p.m.

Tthey should have done that with the Fusion. Smaller and lighter.

mad_machine
mad_machine GRM+ Memberand SuperDork
2/11/09 8:32 p.m.

is it just me.. or do the door panels look a LOT like those from the E36?

pinchvalve
pinchvalve GRM+ Memberand SuperDork
2/11/09 9:28 p.m.

It wouldn't take much for me to be in the market for this car. Let's say I get an overdue promotion at work and can afford a new car. The practical Kia goes to the spouse, and I get something to commute in and take business associates to lunch and the golf course in. I live in the snow belt so AWD would be nice, but I dont want a lumbering SUV. I kinda miss my old Intrepid R/T. BMWs are great, but at $40K they would be kinda stripped if new and I prefer top of the line models with all the bells and whistles. If I go 3series or A4 they are too small. So that means an SHO or Legacy Turbo Wagon, perhaps a Tiguan or GLK, maybe a Saab or Volvo. I would defintealy have the SHO on the list.

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