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RexSeven
RexSeven SuperDork
11/14/11 9:01 p.m.

I recently test-drove a 2012 Mustang V-6. However, between the 2013 Mustang V-6, 2013 Genny Coupe Turbo and the Toyobaru, 2012 is looking to be an interesting year for fans of front-engined/RWD coupes. First, the Mustang is getting one last refresh before the live-axle era ends in 2014or 2015. Ford has released a teaser:

The full thing gets unveiled this weekend at the 2011 LA Auto Show.

Also, the 2013 Genesis Coupe gets a new front fascia and vented hood:

While I'm not a fan of either, I do like what I'm hearing about what's under the hood: A GDI 3.8L V-6 with 345hp and 295lb. ft. of torque and a 2.0T I-4 with 271hp and 275lb.ft. of torque, with a new twin-scroll turbo and intercooler.

Gearheadotaku
Gearheadotaku GRM+ Memberand Dork
11/14/11 9:03 p.m.

Maybe they fixed the ugly tail on the Mustang, awaiting full pictures.

Javelin
Javelin GRM+ Memberand SuperDork
11/14/11 10:37 p.m.

345HP Gen Coupe is amazing!

271HP Turbo-4 Gen Coupe might even be better!

Strike_Zero
Strike_Zero HalfDork
11/15/11 7:12 a.m.
Gearheadotaku wrote: Maybe they fixed the ugly tail on the Mustang, awaiting full pictures.

Supposedly it's still ugly . . .

jhaas
jhaas Reader
11/15/11 7:32 a.m.
RexSeven wrote: I recently test-drove a 2012 Mustang V-6. However, between the 2013 Mustang V-6, 2013 Genny Coupe Turbo and the Toyobaru, 2012 is looking to be an interesting year for fans of front-engined/RWD coupes.

i got the genny reference...what the hell is a toyobaru? quit using ebonics and tell me what the hell you are talking about...if i see the word chebby used for chevy one more time im gonna kill all of you...it takes an extra letter to type it! wtf!

jhaas
jhaas Reader
11/15/11 7:36 a.m.

i just googled it...nevermind still a stupid name

N Sperlo
N Sperlo SuperDork
11/15/11 7:45 a.m.
jhaas wrote: ...if i see the word chebby used for chevy one more time im gonna kill all of you...it takes an extra letter to type it! wtf!

Finna drop da chebby un dem doinks. Make aw dem hoes holla.

Bobzilla
Bobzilla SuperDork
11/15/11 7:50 a.m.

chebby chebby chebby chebby chebby.....

Here Sarge, want to use my pistol?

N Sperlo
N Sperlo SuperDork
11/15/11 7:56 a.m.
Bobzilla wrote: chebby chebby chebby chebby chebby..... Here Sarge, want to use my pistol?

mad_machine
mad_machine GRM+ Memberand SuperDork
11/15/11 8:17 a.m.
N Sperlo wrote:
Bobzilla wrote: chebby chebby chebby chebby chebby..... Here Sarge, want to use my pistol?

Jhaas. Going to give you a pass because you are still a reader... but you did ask for that

jhaas
jhaas Reader
11/15/11 8:23 a.m.

jhaas
jhaas Reader
11/15/11 8:25 a.m.

and THIS is a chebby

bravenrace
bravenrace SuperDork
11/15/11 8:26 a.m.
Gearheadotaku wrote: Maybe they fixed the ugly tail on the Mustang, awaiting full pictures.

I was hoping for that also, but IMO they didn't. What's worse is that I think they also messed up the front end, which I DID like.

mtn
mtn SuperDork
11/15/11 8:44 a.m.
jhaas wrote: i got the genny reference...what the hell is a toyobaru?
jhaas wrote: still a stupid name

There will be a Toyota and a Subaru version: Toybaru. The Toyota version will be called something like the Scion FT86, the Subaru the BRZ.

bravenrace
bravenrace SuperDork
11/15/11 8:55 a.m.

I think Subota would be a better name.

ReverendDexter
ReverendDexter SuperDork
11/15/11 9:03 a.m.

FT86 was the name of the concept, the Scion will be called the FR-S.

For the unaware, FT86 is a reference to Fujiwara Takumi (from Initial D) and the AE86 Corolla (aka Hachi-Roku).

LainfordExpress
LainfordExpress Reader
11/15/11 12:31 p.m.

Actually, I'm nearly certain that the "FT" in FT86 is "Future Toyota". At least, that is what they were saying in the magazines.

Klayfish
Klayfish HalfDork
11/15/11 2:04 p.m.

This is definitely a "golden age" for performance cars. When we look back at it 40 years from now, it'll far exceed the 60's era of muscle cars. In 20 years, the change has been amazing. Sure is a long way from this:

To this:

The base 1992 Ford Mustang 2.3 had 105hp.

The base 2012 Ford Mustang is over 300hp. 75 more than the Mustang GT in '92.

If only I had the funds to take advantage of this golden age....

Bobzilla
Bobzilla SuperDork
11/15/11 2:07 p.m.
Klayfish wrote: This is definitely a "golden age" for performance cars. When we look back at it 40 years from now, it'll far exceed the 60's era of muscle cars. In 20 years, the change has been amazing. Sure is a long way from this: To this: The base 1992 Ford Mustang 2.3 had 105hp. The base 2012 Ford Mustang is over 300hp. 75 more than the Mustang GT in '92. If only I had the funds to take advantage of this golden age....

Three letters that help me sleep at night..... C.P.O.

jhaas
jhaas Reader
11/15/11 3:53 p.m.

Three letters that help me sleep at night..... C.P.O.

i give up...what does that stand for?

mad_machine
mad_machine GRM+ Memberand SuperDork
11/15/11 5:05 p.m.

certified pre-owned.

Just you can be sure that somebody owned the car before you bought it

joeya
joeya New Reader
11/15/11 5:33 p.m.

The only car that does anything impressive is the 5.0 mustang GT.

Everything is still under powered and needs modding.

RexSeven
RexSeven SuperDork
11/15/11 6:04 p.m.
Strike_Zero wrote:
Gearheadotaku wrote: Maybe they fixed the ugly tail on the Mustang, awaiting full pictures.
Supposedly it's still ugly . . .

It is. Those taillights... WTF, Ford?

Klayfish
Klayfish HalfDork
11/16/11 6:37 a.m.
joeya wrote: The only car that does anything impressive is the 5.0 mustang GT. Everything is still under powered and needs modding.

Really? I take it you weren't of driving age back in the 80s and early 90s and the best thing you could chose from (unless you were ultra rich) was 250hp or less.

z31maniac
z31maniac SuperDork
11/16/11 7:47 a.m.

^You took the bait.

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