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fidelity101
fidelity101 Dork
8/9/13 1:32 p.m.

So a few months ago I got a letter in the mail from Mazda regarding my mazda2. It says they want to borrow it for emission testing through some third party organization and then the following:

• A new Mazda to drive around for the duration of the test. (about 3 weeks now, maybe longer who knows!)

• Said Mazda dropped off at my house with full tank of gas

• 150 dollar check upon vehicle return

• Mazda2 returned at my home (or wherever I’m at ) with full tank of gas

• Mazda2 cleaned/washed/vacuumed upon return

I know many of here are drooling over the new styling and being mazda biased I was as well, but I’m going to my best to give you a good glimpse. SO when it was time and ready for this test, all they had was 2014 mazda6’s , boo hoo… /sarcasm.

First, the exterior. I mean just look at it! This one is the grand touring trim which means it is fully loaded, sat nav, sat radio (which I hate) auto leveling (horizontal and vertical) gas discharge bi function pes unit or to you people not in vehicle lighting, HIDS that move when you turn and adjust when you hit bumps as to not blind oncoming traffic. It also has radar cruise control, Bluetooth, heated leather seats, auto trans, blind spot warning, back up camera, auto dimming mirrors (rear and driver) sunroof and 19”s with MSRP 32k

It looks like a big bodied car but it doesn’t drive like one, it feels more stable and nimble than it appears. I felt like an onramp god with this thing (in comparison to my m2) However this effect kind of reminds me of old muscle cars, big on the outside and small on the inside… Because of the styling there is a lack of trunk space, I loaded this thing up to go camping up in Northern Michigan and I felt that my 2 carried more.

You can lower the rear seats but it’s not so easy, you have to pull a level by the trunk lid then somehow get in the trunk and push the seats forward or get a 2nd hand to help out. But I can fit a bike in the back easier than in my mazda2 and that’s a hatchback! Also I don’t scuff up the hell out of the interior because the bike is too big for the rear portion of the car like in my m2. Or I’m just doing it totally wrong.

I’m 6’4” and I fit in the car very nice, even with the sunroof, I probably have enough room for a helmet to do a few autoX days with it (if its still around). Seats fit excellent and provide great bolstering, the red stitching makes it look a lot classier.

The fit and finish is great and there is a lack of screens (I prefer buttons) and everything feels like it is where it should be, nothing is too far to reach and the nav unit is touch screen so you can poke away at the address you want instead of having to use the mouse wheel in the center console. Not to mention a full gauge cluster with needles (however no water temp gauge, but nobody seems to do that anymore…) This is why I like mazdas partily is their interior, its simple and effective.

And then the performance! Also took this down some very curvy. Fast and flowing gravel Michigan roads and with the stability control off and gearbox in manual mode, it handled very well and was very fun  The auto trans itself is a 6 speed and is very intuitive but I was still able to confuse it at times (or it confused me) Then again everything feels fast when you daily drive 100hp but with proper gearing and 184hp it gets out of its own way well and I can pass people on the express way without the fear of dying. Overall though on my 20 mile commute it felt nice not having to clutch all the time inching in traffic congestion.

Look how much room there is for a turbo… granted this model does come with a 2.2TT diesel, the current manifold is a 4-2-1 design. Some say (read mazda)… you can get 40mpg.

Here was todays commute, it is possible but damn is it boring and you have to be VERY gentle on the gas and not in a hurry to go anywhere. Normal driving is about 33-35 mixed which is better than my 2 and it weighs about 800lbs more. With no traffic and the cruise set at 80, heated seats off, no AC and windows up 36 mpg was easy. This car has great aerodynamics (probably why it gets good high speed mileage) and wind noise is very low and very tolerable with windows down.

What I didn’t like was they didn’t give me a manual (low production #s) and all the diesel stuff/trim/NO WAGON FOR USA… and options of course but it’s a free car! How can I be picky? I felt that the steering wheel was too small and there is no mute button on the wheel, even my 2 has that and it a very nice feature! The radar cruise control is nice but I used to work for these with semi trucks and they cause havoc when they go wrong, also you can run manual cruise control. The radar strategy is apply brakes and is quick to downshift to catch up to speed, rather than just let off the gas. My friend following me up north camping said it looked like you were just riding your brakes gently nearly everywhere. More trunk space or easier way to lower rear seats would be nice. Being 6’4” means you really don’t fit in any vehicle other than a big truck very well, I felt this with my seating position. The door is pretty small width wise so it makes it awkward to rest my left arm/elbow while driving, luckily the right arm rest moves forward/backward but utilizing this and operating the steering wheel can be an ergonomic challenge of trading comfort between limbs. Another thing that was bizzare was when you set the cruise control at speeds above 40mph they would differ with the GPS. IE if you set cruise at 80, GPS said you were doing 81…

Overall I really liked the car and I am anticipating the diesel version, however you cannot get grand touring in manual which means you can get cloth or leatherette. The real leather is really nice but I know myself and leatherette will probably be better for me because I can get messy. The handling, power, stereo, comfort and ride quality was all excellent and it was hard to improve on the last mazda6 and fusion platform but it really kicked it up a notch on all of the levels… The keyless entry is neat but its weird not getting your keys out to get in the car with the pushbutton, VERY handy when getting groceries though. There is plenty of power for the daily driver in you with enough to have fun on the weekends, it handled Detroits pot holes and E36 M3ty roads, road noise is pretty low and the car is happy medium, my back doesn’t hurt from the ride and I’m not stressed out over the vehicles performance and lack of throttle response but the auto trans could hide some of this. The Bluetooth is simple to use and you can set it up while moving (unlike the camry) sport comfort I would call it.

I still have this car for the weekend (as far as I know) I will take more pictures or answers questions upon request 

If this is TL;DR just look at the pictures and make a funny comment like WHEN LSX SWAP?

mndsm
mndsm PowerDork
8/9/13 1:38 p.m.

I got a chance to drive one a while back, thought it was only a sport. For a mid sized sedan, it's rather agile, and I REALLY loves the looks.

SilverFleet
SilverFleet SuperDork
8/9/13 1:42 p.m.

Thank you for doing this review. The new 6 is on my list if and when I replace my 3. I sat in a Sport a few months back at an auto show, and even that car was pretty nice.

fidelity101
fidelity101 Dork
8/9/13 1:43 p.m.
SilverFleet wrote: Thank you for doing this review. The new 6 is on my list if and when I replace my 3. I sat in a Sport a few months back at an auto show, and even that car was pretty nice.

I wanted one before I had it for 3 weeks, now I really do. However maybe a different color and def the almond/white interior (its more of a black and tan/extra classy) diesel and of course manual. My mazda2 is really just starting to piss me off. I should have just bought a 5000 dollar car if I wanted that kind of performance/price/"reliability"

also note: only grand touring gets the xenon HIDs with LED DRL. everyone else gets a pes unit (looks like an HID) with a halogen bulb but it is not bi function so you have a bulb high beam. The styling difference between the two is pretty big (maybe because I work for the people that make these and now I notice lighting much more...)

Vigo
Vigo UberDork
8/9/13 1:48 p.m.

Steering wheel too small? That is like the last thing i expected to hear in an enthusiast review of a car from a manufacturer whose whole schtick is building in enthusiast appeal. .

Javelin
Javelin GRM+ Memberand MegaDork
8/9/13 1:50 p.m.

Thanks for the review! Interesting program they have you on, though I wouldn't complain about a GT M6!!! I'm still waiting to test drive a manual. (Mazda USA has yet to act on the 700+ signatures in my change.org petition for the Sky-D/manual/wagon variant, which I will totally buy).

fidelity101
fidelity101 Dork
8/9/13 1:59 p.m.
Vigo wrote: Steering wheel too small? That is like the last thing i expected to hear in an enthusiast review of a car from a manufacturer whose whole schtick is building in enthusiast appeal. .

It just seems small. I guess thats personal preference, I had a friend of mine hop in and and his first reaction was THIS STEERING WHEEL IS HUGE!

However, in my rx7 I cant get a steering wheel big enough! however it does not have power steering.

Enyar
Enyar HalfDork
8/9/13 2:04 p.m.

Can I post this on my website?

fidelity101
fidelity101 Dork
8/9/13 2:26 p.m.
Enyar wrote: Can I post this on my website?

Sure, but probably block out the license plate. If you give me a car for a few weeks I'll do another too lol.

SilverFleet
SilverFleet SuperDork
8/9/13 2:32 p.m.
fidelity101 wrote:
SilverFleet wrote: Thank you for doing this review. The new 6 is on my list if and when I replace my 3. I sat in a Sport a few months back at an auto show, and even that car was pretty nice.
I wanted one before I had it for 3 weeks, now I really do. However maybe a different color and def the almond/white interior (its more of a black and tan/extra classy) diesel and of course manual. My mazda2 is really just starting to piss me off. I should have just bought a 5000 dollar car if I wanted that kind of performance/price/"reliability" also note: only grand touring gets the xenon HIDs with LED DRL. everyone else gets a pes unit (looks like an HID) with a halogen bulb but it is not bi function so you have a bulb high beam. The styling difference between the two is pretty big (maybe because I work for the people that make these and now I notice lighting much more...)

I'm probably going to try and find a nice CPO GT in a few years. Manual transmission cars are fun, but constantly shifting and sitting in bumper-to-bumper traffic for most of the time that I spend in the car is not. Besides, I have another car that has a stick, and (in theory, because I've never driven it) it's more fun than my econobox.

Also, I want real HID's, and not just projector housings. I went with a cheap retrofit kit on the halogen projectors on my '09 WRX and found that a good quality halogen headlight actually put out more light.

fidelity101
fidelity101 Dork
8/9/13 2:48 p.m.

I agree on the cheap retrofit, however I would just snag some real OEM bulbs/balasts from work

but the LED DRL is realllly nice styling with the bi-function unit :(

SilverFleet
SilverFleet SuperDork
8/9/13 3:02 p.m.
fidelity101 wrote: I agree on the cheap retrofit, however I would just snag some real OEM bulbs/balasts from work but the LED DRL is realllly nice styling with the bi-function unit :(

Agreed, the GT lights (and the front end with the fogs) just looks a lot nicer. And you are lucky to have access to that HID stuff!

fidelity101
fidelity101 Dork
8/9/13 3:05 p.m.

In reply to SilverFleet:

Naw that stuff is old and dated. LED headlamps are where its at now :)

integraguy
integraguy UltraDork
8/9/13 3:57 p.m.

In Europe, some markets are getting this car as a wagon with the manual and diesel already. Pictures I've seen of the production ready Mazda3 look VERY much like the 6 so if you are on a budget getting the smaller car won't make you feel like you "settled".

Enyar
Enyar HalfDork
8/9/13 3:58 p.m.
integraguy wrote: In Europe, some markets are getting this car as a wagon with the manual and diesel already. Pictures I've seen of the production ready Mazda3 look VERY much like the 6 so if you are on a budget getting the smaller car won't make you feel like you "settled".

But the 3 won't be available in diesel! Otherwise it would be perfect for me.

kreb
kreb GRM+ Memberand SuperDork
8/9/13 5:41 p.m.

Are they going to make it available with a bigger motor? It seems like they're in a class where all the players offer 6's.

dj06482
dj06482 GRM+ Memberand Dork
8/9/13 8:46 p.m.

Great review, thanks!

fidelity101
fidelity101 Dork
8/10/13 6:24 p.m.
kreb wrote: Are they going to make it available with a bigger motor? It seems like they're in a class where all the players offer 6's.

Mazda doesnt even have a v6 anymore. For engine options its a 184hp 2.5L which is more powerful than the 4 cyls in its class and later this year you can get the 2.2L bi turbo 4 cyl diesel which has similar hp but 311ft lbs....

The camry weighs in around 3500, this is 3100.

ultraclyde
ultraclyde Dork
8/10/13 6:50 p.m.

We've got almost 10,000 miles on our 2014 Mazda 6. I posted a quick review when we bought it, it's also a Grand Touring but in Soul Red Metallic.

The only thing I'll disagree about is the size of the trunk. It's a freaking cavern, man, I don't know what you're used to other than the Maz2. The only car I've driven with a bigger trunk was my 1970 Impala.

My wife DD's the Maz6 an averages about 33 in mixed driving. Better than the MINI we traded.'

You're right about the aerodynamics. Take a look under the car. It has a full belly pan nearly tip to tail. I had to go buy a set of Rhino Ramps to change the oil because you can't just throw a floor jack under it. It does have perfectly planned little access panels for common maintenance, which impressed the E36 M3 out of me.

The only gremlin we've run into in 10k miles was some finicky action from the tire pressure system because it was not set up correctly by the first dealer before transfer to ours.

I spent 4 hours in it today on a run to Atlanta and back. It's easily one of the nicest cars to spend time in over long distances,

If you use the Nav system, look up the Austrailian dude "James" in the unit. He's got all kinds of smart-ass quips to go with the directions.

fidelity101
fidelity101 Dork
8/10/13 9:13 p.m.

Im not used to sedans i typically have had wagons and hatches. I do like on the left and right side having a little plastic bin built in to store misc stuff without it rolling around. It holds 2 jugs of 1 gallon water very well.

So do you find lowering the back seats to be clunky or am i doing it wrong?

Basil Exposition
Basil Exposition HalfDork
8/10/13 10:44 p.m.

How are the seats. They seem flat bottomed in the one pic. I hate seats in a sports-oriented car that let you slide about.

fidelity101
fidelity101 Dork
8/11/13 11:27 a.m.

They fit nice and you can adjust the lower portion to avoid flat bottom.

Also i have been doing the seat fold down wrong. Just hit the release button in the trunk then just go to the back seats and they flop right down.

ultraclyde
ultraclyde Dork
8/11/13 4:14 p.m.

sorry to chime in late, but you figured it out. Pull release in trunk, walk around to rear door and flip the seat down. My one complaint is the center shoulder belt in the back is kind of a PITA, but since they're fed mandated, I'm not sure how you get around it...

The trunk doesn't have the height of a hatch, true, but it's huge. With the rear seat down, it's only slightly shorter front-to-back than my Explorer's cargo area with its rear seat down. I have put my 58cm road bike in the trunk with the front tire removed, and then the rear axle of the bike is barely protruding into the passenger compartment. The rear tire doesn't come close to touching the back of the front seats.

The driver's seat has enough adjustments that flat-bottom isn't a problem for me, but the passenger seat doesn't have a bottom tilt adjustment. The front of the seat could be a little higher for my comfort on that side, but it's not too bad.

kreb
kreb GRM+ Memberand SuperDork
8/11/13 6:38 p.m.
fidelity101 wrote: Mazda doesnt even have a v6 anymore. For engine options its a 184hp 2.5L which is more powerful than the 4 cyls in its class and later this year you can get the 2.2L bi turbo 4 cyl diesel which has similar hp but 311ft lbs.... The camry weighs in around 3500, this is 3100.

Who makes the V6 that goes in the CX9?

JamesMcD
JamesMcD HalfDork
8/11/13 6:53 p.m.
kreb wrote:
fidelity101 wrote: Mazda doesnt even have a v6 anymore. For engine options its a 184hp 2.5L which is more powerful than the 4 cyls in its class and later this year you can get the 2.2L bi turbo 4 cyl diesel which has similar hp but 311ft lbs.... The camry weighs in around 3500, this is 3100.
Who makes the V6 that goes in the CX9?

I believe it is Ford-sourced.

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