Asking for a friend: what should he fear about a 2016 Cayenne Turbo with 60k on the clock? Would be a daily driver for someone who wants to be seen with this as his daily driver, LOL. City and highway, no trailer towing, no mudding.
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Asking for a friend: what should he fear about a 2016 Cayenne Turbo with 60k on the clock? Would be a daily driver for someone who wants to be seen with this as his daily driver, LOL. City and highway, no trailer towing, no mudding.
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The fuel cost of 14mpg on 93 octane?
In reply to AngryCorvair (Forum Supporter) :
That fact that you are already asking means you pretty much know ha.
A used, once $100k+ turbo German thats 7 years old, everyone wants this (including myself) but knows the risks associated.
Stack of maintenance records should show about 12 oil changes and not four. If it shows four, walk away. It was owned by someone who wanted to be seen driving a Cayenne Turbo and didn't want to actually keep it up. It's a maintenance barometer.
Just consider the Porsche tax for every part, repair, and oil change.
At least in the 911 world, the turbo motors are considered more reliable than the n/a motors. No idea if that transfers to the Cayennes
Wouldn't a better question be "2016 Cayenne Turbo:what shouldn't I fear?"
I'll start the list. Rust, wiper blade replacement....
My dad traded his 2016 in for a new one at 70,000 when the fuel pump started going out. I think that was going to be over $2000. Couldn't do it yourself because it had to be calibrated by the dealer. Is that needed on other cars or is Porsche just making it needlessly complicated for service revenue?
he wouldn't let me replace his rotors and pads, so paid the dealership over 3k for that!
trade in value of the car was $26,000
That's the same basic chassis as my Touareg.
It drives very well. With the TDI, it has a lovely amount of torque on tap and will knock down 28-29 mpg on the interstate. The 8-speed trans is very nice.
But, it has been less than perfect. Right now it's running neck in neck with my Silverado and that one was sold because of the constant trips to the shop.
For all the hype about German quality and engineering, it is really no better built than any Japanese, Korean, or American vehicle. The plastics creak. The switches break. The nav system is a joke. Parts fail and as a bonus, when they do you get to pay stupid prices for them because German. I currently have an intermittent CEL for a contaminated connection in the DEF system. Book time to fix it is apparently a ridiculous number of hours because the entire back of the car has to come off so you can pull the DEF assembly to get to the offending connection. $800 alternators and $700 HVAC blower motors will probably stop me from buying another German car for the rest of my life. I have now owned 2 and they don't live up to their hype.
At least the Bentley has the quality to go along with the quirky engineering.
Fear itself, according to FDR 
In reply to Toyman! :
Touregs are nice because you can service them. Porsche requires Porsche specific scan tools to do anything, down to resetting the maintenance indicator.
As far as engines, IIRC the Cayenne V8 is an outgrowth of the 928 engine. The "V6" is a VR6.
In reply to Pete. (l33t FS) :
Nope, clean sheet design on the engine.
1st gen (955/957) Cayenne Turbos are bulletproof once you replace the coolant pipes with metal ones. 2nd gens are notorious repair monsters.
1st Gen Cayenne turbos are anything but "bulletproof". Besides the coolant pipe issue they've got issues with bore scoring, bad turbo seals and a variety of other expensive issues. Mine was burning 1 quart of oil every 500 miles and that was not uncommon at all! Hence me getting rid of it.
On the 2nd Gen's the transfer case is a known weak point and will break. Various other things like variocam bolts, etc. These can take fairly deep pockets to maintain and if he's coming from a Japanese car background I'd caution him to pass on it. If he's used to German car ownership and has the stomach to handle 4 digit service bills with some regularity then go for it.
jharry3 said:Just consider the Porsche tax for every part, repair, and oil change.
Apart from this, make sure it uses regular ol' iron brakes. They could have the hellaciously expensive tungsten-carbide brakes (which look like ordinary brakes so be careful!), or worse yet one of history's greatest economic red flags, carbon brakes on a street car.
In reply to Pete. (l33t FS) :
2014 and up require a scan tool to reset the inspection service intervals. Mine is wanting a 100k service now. No way to reset it without spending money on VCDS or OBD11. I'm debating if turning off the warning is worth the money.
Multiply the negative issues from Toyman and Docwyte and divide the positives by 2. Good looks for an SUV, comfortable ride and lots of power. Expensive maintenance and it will need maintenance. Overcomplicated and a few battles won by accountant vs the engineers.
I've really only had one issue with my TDI Touareg. Actuation of the EGR cooler. They replaced the whole thing twice. It's basically an intercooler for the EGR. Even though it's still under warranty I've decided to let my 'little light shine' rather than go back to the dealership a third time. I still love it and plan to get an aftermarket tune in the near future.
I'd expect similar issues on the '16 Cayenne.
It really just depends if you want to give your friend good advice, or just enable him. 
Good looks are subjective and plenty of SUVs make plenty of power. Depends on if you wanna ball on a budget or not.
If I was spending $50ish on a Porsche SUV, I would keep on going to the used Grand Cherokee Trackhawk. But thats just me.
Have you considered a Miata?
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