A Quaife for the front only!
And in very limited numberers. Interesting move by Ford.
Good news. Will it still do that thing to people's kidneys that it does?
What does it do to kidneys? Pain?
Trackmouse wrote: What does it do to kidneys? Pain?
Beats the daylights out of you with unnecessarily stiff suspension.
NickD wrote:Trackmouse wrote: What does it do to kidneys? Pain?Beats the daylights out of you with unnecessarily stiff suspension.
Seriously its bad. I want to take the suspension engineers and throw them in the trunk of one and drive it around on city street. Just to show them how bad it is.
^This is your butt.
^This is your butt beaten with a lightly padded 2X4. Any questions?
wearymicrobe wrote:NickD wrote:Seriously its bad. I want to take the suspension engineers and throw them in the trunk of one and drive it around on city street. Just to show them how bad it is.Trackmouse wrote: What does it do to kidneys? Pain?Beats the daylights out of you with unnecessarily stiff suspension.
But how will you know that it's "sporty" if it doesn't have rock-hard suspension?
red_stapler wrote: But how will you know that it's "sporty" if it doesn't have rock-hard suspension?
This seems to be the modern trend. Crank the compression damping on the shocks to 11 so every little thing seems harsh, crashy and uncomfortable in the name of feeling "sporty". And then pair it with mediocre springs and too little rebound damping so it gets unsettled and bouncy over big bumps and is really just not well sorted at all.
Immediately clicked on the link without reading beyond Focus RS waiting to see a GIF of a tool flipping the car over or hitting a wall in dift mode. Oh well.
trigun7469 wrote: Immediately clicked on the link without reading beyond Focus RS waiting to see a GIF of a tool flipping the car over or hitting a wall in dift mode. Oh well.
Can confirm suspension is too stiff. Already destroyed the sidewall of one front tire on a family drive down 101 along the Cali coast.
The car wears me out to drive. Personally it has so much grip that unless you're driving in ice on summer tires. I don't think the LSD will make that big a difference.
Since 2018 is the last year for that gen of Focus, makes sense they'll send it out on a "high" note.
In reply to Stefan:
This is why I'm happy with my ST. I don't think I'd want an RS. The ST is plenty hard, has plenty of grip, etc, but it's still "normal" enough to be usable as a car. I've now driven mine across the country 3 times.
Will be more impressive to me if the LSD was on the ST. I think it needs it more. Nevertheless that is still a vehicle that will be nice to own for a couple of years then keep as a garage queen fo many more years.
rslifkin wrote: This seems to be the modern trend. Crank the compression damping on the shocks to 11 so every little thing seems harsh, crashy and uncomfortable in the name of feeling "sporty".
I was told this is a Koni thing - very stiff initial bump compression, so it feels "sporty" when the great unwashed waggle the steering back and forth to see how "responsive" it is.
The more I drive on my Konis, the more I hate them.
In reply to hotchocolate:
Yeah, I'd go for a $1000 option for an LSD on the ST, if only because that would make that diff legal for SCCA street. I've been tempted to put one in, but it would kick me in to a class where I'm not at all competitive without a bunch of other mods.
Knurled wrote:rslifkin wrote: This seems to be the modern trend. Crank the compression damping on the shocks to 11 so every little thing seems harsh, crashy and uncomfortable in the name of feeling "sporty".I was told this is a Koni thing - very stiff initial bump compression, so it feels "sporty" when the great unwashed waggle the steering back and forth to see how "responsive" it is. The more I drive on my Konis, the more I hate them.
In the realm of aftermarket suspension, there's a fix for this: stiffer springs. If the shocks have enough rebound damping, stiffer springs will sometimes ride better on shocks with a lot of compression damping (suspension moves less distance for a given impact so the shock provides less compression damping force on the hit). I've mostly noticed issues with too much compression damping on combos like Koni yellows with stock springs.
In reply to trucke:
Doesn't look too bad 
These sort of suspension complaints are why journalists are so blown away with how the ND V8 drives. Compliance is good 
Most of the descriptions here are ones I would apply to Bilstein suspensions, not Koni. We call it the "Bilstein jiggle".
I'm surprised the hot Focus didn't have an LSD in the first place.
This is why I never fly the A model of anything.
Maybe that explains why there has been 4 RSs sitting on Ford lots for months around here by me. I just thought it was the more usual reason........dealer gouging.
Feedyurhed wrote: Maybe that explains why there has been 4 RSs sitting on Ford lots for months around here by me. I just thought it was the more usual reason........dealer gouging.
That could be too. Ford seems especially bad about that. When the new GT500 came out back in 2007, dealers were frequently tacking on another $15-20K on top of the price tag.
A guy I race with who has a FoRS had ordered one from the local dealer and waited almost a year, only for it to show up in the middle of winter. The dealership refused to store it and he didn't want to drive it home in the winter, so they refunded him his money. He heard that they sold the car with an extra $10K on top.
That's dealer mark ups not ford. It's nice to see a major manufacturer lurking forums though. Ford and Mazda are hard to beat when it comes to making enthusiast happy with their cars.
yupididit wrote: Mazda are hard to beat when it comes to making enthusiast happy with their cars.
Ford can go suck a giant rotten egg over how they have treated my friends an I over the last several years. Mazda is fantastic though.
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