Released in 2016 as a way to blur the lines between light-duty and heavy-duty trucks, the Nissan Titan XD promised to offer towing and hauling capacities close to that of the heavy-duty players, but with the fuel efficiency and affordability of a lighter-duty truck. According to Nissan, when specced correctly, the XD has a max towing capacity of 12,710 pounds …
That's, uh, quite the name. Did Capcom name it?
The 2nd gen Titan seems like an all-around major improvement over the 1st gen Titan, but... it has none of the market significance that the 1st gen had.
The original Titan came out truly swinging, having as its only engine option a 5.6 that made it faster than a Hemi Ram back when the Hemi was a big deal, and also made it as fast as a Silverado SS and much faster than any other GM pickup. You couldn't really get a 'boring' Titan in the context of its competitors at the time. It was powerful, did truck stuff fine, and fell apart slower than the Big 3 competitors did. A good start!
Nowadays all those competitors have made leaps and bounds. The Nissan is better too, but the other competitors have made MORE leaps and bounds and now the Titan doesn't really stand out at anything. I've sat in one (but not not driven it), and it just seems sort of generic and unexceptional in 2019 even though its miles ahead of the 2004 model.
I think Nissan made a big mistake when they changed course on their diesel plans. Way back in 2010 Nissan had a Titan running around with a 2.8L Cummins that they estimated would be rated 28mpg combined city/hwy. This was 4 years before Ram became the first half-ton diesel. It would have been a big deal if Nissan was first to market with a half-ton diesel, especially one with the trusted Cummins name. But, they changed course and not only were they not the first half-ton diesel, they're now the ONLY half-ton diesel that DOESN'T get great fuel economy! Ok, so you don't have great fuel economy. But then you compare it to other diesels that don't get great fuel economy and it's ALSO by far the slowest and lowest tow rating! 12,000 lbs? Not only is it basically no better than the gas tow rating, it's also slightly short of the THIRTY thousand lbs that the big diesels are rated at in their top spec 1 ton trucks. So where does this 5.0 reside in the grand scheme of things? An unexceptional engine in an unexceptional truck? At least if it was a 28mpg 4cyl people would be choosing a Nissan over a GM/Ford/Ram and a Cummins over a VM Motori, Powerstroke, or Duramax for perceived reliability reasons, and they'd be mostly right about it!
Instead, it's an also-ran. A huge improvement over the 1st Titan, a perfectly decent gas half ton, but also a massive miscalculation and a study in coulda woulda shouldas.
all these new half tons are trying to be 3/4 tons in disguise and they only check some of the boxes when should check them all, especially for the price tags...
ohhh. Can I buy 7 lug wheels for my F150..
https://www.f150online.com/forums/wheels-tires-brakes/365576-7-lug-ford.html
Im a huge nissan fan. It took me a bit to warm up to the first Titan, but i ended up really liking it. This new one i dont like. Its bulgy, not as bad as the tundra, and the wheel/tire combo is too small for the wheel wells.
For both generations, why the hell not use the nissan made diesels that the rest of the world gets? And then they stuck a warmed over dana 44 out back while again, they have their own rear ends that are much stronger. My old weak nissan hardbody had a better rear end than the new ones, and it had about 1/3rd the power.
I was seeing quite a few new titans on used car lots(even my local deland nissan) that only had a few hundred miles, if that. Not exactly confidence inspiring. Nissan was buying back trucks because they were having so many issues.
My bigger issue is the price. Im not in the crowd that thinks 60k is a OK price for a truck. I paid 24k for my slightly used 2012 frontier pro-4x and that was painful for me.
If i were to go buy a full size truck right now, id probably get a f-150 with a 5.0 or 3.5 eco. But thats not gonna be happening.
They don't seem to be necessarily bad trucks, but the styling , to me, is really unattractive. From a side view the area where the fenders come to the cowl is ghastly. It looks like the cab and bed were designed by employee A, the front clip designed by employee B, employee C just welded them together as best he could.
It just looks broken and sad.
I owned a first gen (2010 I think) Titan and it was a pretty decent truck at a great price. The loud pedal was lots of fun but the transmission was from a 350Z and was weak, and the rear axle wasn't very good either. At least it looked decent. The new ones are ugly and expensive.
In reply to Vigo :
Waaay back in the earlier part of this century, when the 5.0 Cummins was first being developed, it was designed with a nearly identical 6 cylinder variant. I walk past both the v6 and v8 prototypes frequently at work and occasionally play the "what if" game. Dodge was the intended customer back then and I think they even had some Ram 1500 and Gen2 Durango prototypes with the v6 running around. THAT would've been the game changer, and probably would've fit into the current market place really well. Essentially it would've been a Cummins EcoDiesel.
Instead, the auto industry tanked, Dodge was bought by Fiat who wanted to use their own V6, and Cummins went back to the drawing board with the engine while they looked for a new partner. The engine design was heavily updated but the v6 was scrapped entirely. Not sure why the V6 was dropped in favor of the V8 architecture. Maybe they were hoping the v8 would have more appeal to commercial customers? I don't know. The V8 never seemed like a great fit for anything.
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