PHeller
PHeller PowerDork
6/5/15 11:05 a.m.

I'm considering picking up (pun) one of these as a fun, somewhat economical desert and forest road cruiser. I figure a manual 2wd version will probably get similar MPG to a Ranger but with more power and a larger bed. Enough ground clearance and tire to ride comfortably on gravel roads. Thinking of putting a cap on the back and camping out of it as well.

So far I've inquired about mostly 1999+ as I'm hoping to get an LS motor.

I've been inspired by a local guy who's got a 1980 C10 that has been built to resemble a stadium truck. It's been dropped 2", has 31x10.50s on 10 and 12" wheels, and is otherwise stock. I'd love to mimic the idea but with a newer truck.

tjbell
tjbell Reader
6/5/15 11:13 a.m.

im failry sure that with the manual you will get either the 4.8l v8 or the 4.3 vortec v6

I do not think they came up a 5.3L and manual but I could be wrong. Should be easier to find one of these in 2WD as it will likely have no options. I believe they use the NV3500? but I am not positive. Other that that, easy to work on, parts are so cheap they are almost free, and will run well over 350K

chiodos
chiodos Reader
6/5/15 11:38 a.m.

In reply to tjbell:

Your assumptions are correct, only manual v8 was the 4.8 (not that bad, rev happy) and it was with the nv3500 trans.

PHeller
PHeller PowerDork
6/5/15 11:46 a.m.

Can I put 15" wheels on a newer truck?

How's the NV3500 trans for reliability and ratios?

Any easy ways to get better MPG or power out of the 4.8l LS?

Will
Will SuperDork
6/5/15 12:12 p.m.

In reply to PHeller:

Pretty much every trick that works on a 5.3 or 5.7 works on a 4.8. LS6 cam/intake/valve springs couldn't hurt.

novaderrik
novaderrik UltimaDork
6/5/15 1:45 p.m.

a 5.3 to swap in place of the 4.8 is like $350 at any junkyard in the country... a 6.0 is about $1000...

either one is a direct bolt in swap as long as they are from about the same year range.

regarding the 15" wheels: i can't say that i've ever personally seen 15's on one of those trucks, but i have seen people selling 15" wheels on CL groups that claimed that they were on one of those trucks. wouldn't be that hard to find a 15" 6 lug wheel and see if it clears the brakes, but i think they went to a unitized front wheel bearing/hub on them which means they probably need a lot more backspacing than the older trucks did.

patgizz
patgizz GRM+ Memberand PowerDork
6/5/15 5:43 p.m.

the nv3500 is fine. i have a high mile one behind a 454 and i am not easy on it. when it's empty i play and other times it pulls a trailer. no WOT clutch dumps or no lift shifts, but still not easy on it.

mazdeuce
mazdeuce PowerDork
6/5/15 5:52 p.m.

If they have the same brakes as the GMT900 trucks with the 13 inch rotors I don't think 15's will fit. My truck has factory 16's and you can't fit a pinky between the wheel and caliper.

tjbell
tjbell Reader
6/6/15 6:50 a.m.

I had a 99 Z71 with the 5.3L. It had disks front and rear, with 16" rims, I dont think they offered a 15" on those years and Im not sure it woul fit either

2002maniac
2002maniac Dork
6/6/15 7:45 a.m.

The 13" rotors started in 05. 16" min to clear the earlier 12" brake setup.

oldopelguy
oldopelguy SuperDork
6/6/15 8:36 a.m.

The 16" rims from the 88-98 trucks won't even fit on the 99+ trucks, so I don't think you will find 15s that fit.

FWIW, the clutch pedal assemblies for the 99+ trucks are selling on eBay for @$90. Add the $40 flywheel, a clutch kit, a master cylinder and line, and the nv3500 from a 4.3L S10 and you can convert a 99+ truck with a blown 4L60E to manual for @$750 in hardware plus a tune on the ecu.

TIGMOTORSPORTS
TIGMOTORSPORTS HalfDork
6/7/15 6:08 a.m.

There are a lot of 16inch wheel/tire combo's for these trucks (99 up), thanks to Chevy/GMC selling a lot of these trucks.

I have a 99 GMC Sierra Z71 4x4 Ext Cab, with the 4.8V8 auto trans, and 3.42 gears. I average 15 mpg around town, 18 highway is about the norm with 21 being the highest. Has 270,000 miles. I added a Spectre cold air intake and Dynomax cat back exhaust-both picked up power.

I think your project idea sounds awesome. If you find one without the factory locking rear differential, I would add a Powertrax or something aftermarket.

Opti
Opti Reader
6/7/15 7:49 p.m.

My buddy swapped to a T56 in his, and he said tried to source all the factory manual stuff used, but had a hard time finding it in junkyards and even brand new it was pretty inexpensive.

A few people we knew also did the swap and used an aftermaket clutch line which greatly increased pedal effort, to the point one took out the T56 and swapped to a TH400.

So i recommend the factory GM lines, I think they were 120 new.

TIGMOTORSPORTS
TIGMOTORSPORTS HalfDork
6/14/15 9:36 p.m.

Here is a 4x4 99 V8 5speed

http://knoxville.craigslist.org/ctd/5070826571.html

captdownshift
captdownshift GRM+ Memberand SuperDork
6/15/15 9:18 a.m.

In reply to TIGMOTORSPORTS:

I wish that I hadn't seen that...

gearheadE30
gearheadE30 Reader
6/15/15 9:23 a.m.

Damn.

Weren't all the factory NBS manual trucks 4.8s? I've seen a few with 5.3s but they were swapped.

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