351 4V?

Jerry From LA wrote: The "M" stands for "Midland." Another example of Ford naming the motor for the location of the factory.

"Modified" or "Midland" or "Michigan", it all equals suck.

Knurled wrote:

darkbuddha wrote: IIRC, there's no difference between 4v and 2v Windsor heads, no matter the year. The '69-'70 351 Windsor heads got slightly bigger valves, but otherwise ain't much better than any other Windsor head. I think the E7 heads actually flow better.

The E7 heads didn't exist yet... /old

Huh? I wasn't constraining my observation to any particular time period, just a generalized comparison between all Windsor family heads (which would include 302W and 351W). In any case, I was wrong... or more accurately, mistaken. I guess I was thinking about GT40 vs. E7 Powerhead stats I'd seen. The fact is that stock E7s suck a bunch and '69-'70 351W suck slightly less, GT40/P/Y are pretty okay, ported E7 are pretty good. Here are some good charts that show flow info for lots of popular Ford heads: http://www.allfordmustangs.com/Detailed/630.shtml

pres589 wrote: novaderrik wrote the following; "they [Ford] kept using them [Cleveland heads] competitively in race car engines even after everyone else (Dodge, GM, Toyota) designed complete engines from the ground up just for those race series." And really, when I think about streetable powerplants that are economical and nicely mannered, I think of NASCAR motors for my Rachero project.

was that the original point of this thread? there is that place in North Carolina that sells detuned NASCAR engines and slightly used NASCAR drivetrain and chassis parts.. i'm sure they'd have something awesome for your Ranchero..