50 New Daytona Coupes..

https://www.yahoo.com/autos/shelby-celebrates-the-daytona-coupes-1965-world-125844515872.html

Shelby producing new Daytona Coupes - your choice:

1)aluminum bodied and built pretty much like the originals - $349k

2) Fiberglass bodied with creature comforts - $179k

Wow, from the grave.

It's done people, there were only a few. Live with it. Or get a replica.

alfadriver wrote: ...Or get a replica.

That's kinda the point.

aren't the new alluminum body cobras SA is building still running the 60's VIN? Apparently they applied for more than they produced so they could still build NEW Old Stock.

I wonder if this is the same?

The listed prices don't include an engine

Driven5 wrote:

alfadriver wrote: ...Or get a replica.

That's kinda the point.

but these pretend to be original. they are not. they were original 50 years ago.

If they want to build new cars in 2015, then they should meet ALL modern standards. They don't intend to as they are barely improved originals pretending to be original.

Man, I though Shelby was greedy. Apparently he passed that onto his company.

build a Factory Five and save a fortune.

I would rather buy an aluminium body repro of the Cobra convertible.

alfadriver wrote: but these pretend to be original.

Only in the sense that they're made by the original manufacturer...Which adds significant value to some people. However, I have seen absolutely no pretense that these are unfinished original cars found in a barn that are just now being completed to original specification, or any such nonsense. They're simply being sold as little more than a designer-brand replica/kit Cobra, so why should they should be viewed or treated as anything but?

If people are willing to shell out the cash they should build them. Good for them. Who is the bad person here the Shelby co. or the customer?

It is the public demand for all things Shelby tgat keeps them making and marketing stuff. I now see why a couple years back Shelby got tough with patents and went after all the kit car companies making Cobras. They were clearing the market place for there re release of the brand. Smart business if you ask me. I have never been a fan of the Shelby brand but I respect it and respect there right to protect there business interests.

Driven5 wrote:

alfadriver wrote: but these pretend to be original.

Only in the sense that they're made by the original manufacturer...Which adds significant value to some people. However, I have seen absolutely no pretense that these are unfinished original cars found in a barn that are just now being completed to original specification, or any such nonsense. They're simply being sold as little more than a designer-brand replica/kit Cobra, so why should they should be viewed or treated as anything but?

The astronomical price would suggest that they pretend to be real.

But it is really funny that they are kit cars. Such an expensive kit car.

I guess if people are delisional enough to spend stupid money on a kit car, I guess they are the dumb ones, Shelby is just taking advantage of them. Which was his MO anyway.

alfadriver wrote: The astronomical price would suggest that they pretend to be real.

Nah, that's just the price of exclusivity. It's really no different than the inflated selling prices, and willingness to pay it, that is rampant with any other highly collectable and very-limited availability exotic/specialty cars...Much like I'm sure the upcoming Ford GT will encounter as well. Whether it's the manufacturer or a reseller, somebody is going to price these cars based on supply vs demand and not just cost to manufacture + profit. Why would they simply let that additional profit go to some speculating car flipper?

alfadriver wrote:

Driven5 wrote:

alfadriver wrote: but these pretend to be original.

Only in the sense that they're made by the original manufacturer...Which adds significant value to some people. However, I have seen absolutely no pretense that these are unfinished original cars found in a barn that are just now being completed to original specification, or any such nonsense. They're simply being sold as little more than a designer-brand replica/kit Cobra, so why should they should be viewed or treated as anything but?

The astronomical price would suggest that they pretend to be real. But it is really funny that they are kit cars. Such an expensive kit car. I guess if people are delisional enough to spend stupid money on a kit car, I guess they are the dumb ones, Shelby is just taking advantage of them. Which was his MO anyway.

Man you're a crotchety guy aren't you? More like he's trying to make money like all of the replica kitcar companies have from his Company's efforts over the years. Since they are officially licensed, they can charge more for them. People don't have to pay the asking price, look at the Series 1 for example.

alfadriver wrote:

Driven5 wrote:

alfadriver wrote: ...Or get a replica.

That's kinda the point.

but these pretend to be original. they are not. they were original 50 years ago. If they want to build new cars in 2015, then they should meet ALL modern standards. They don't intend to as they are barely improved originals pretending to be original. Man, I though Shelby was greedy. Apparently he passed that onto his company.

I met the guy a few times he never struck me as greedy. Not all there upstairs later in life though. The attorney/trust that somehow got involved with his estate before he dies allegedly is the guy doing all this noise.

alfadriver wrote:

Driven5 wrote:

alfadriver wrote: ...Or get a replica.

That's kinda the point.

but these pretend to be original. they are not. they were original 50 years ago. If they want to build new cars in 2015, then they should meet ALL modern standards. They don't intend to as they are barely improved originals pretending to be original. Man, I though Shelby was greedy. Apparently he passed that onto his company.

I would say that since they are being produced by the original manufacturer, they are indeed original.

Original 2015 1960s Cars.

dean1484 wrote: Original 2015 1960s Cars.

Yes.

"Shelby decided to cash in some unused chassis numbers in 1991, and offered what are now referred to as Completion Cobras. He hoped to sell them as new 1965 vintage Cobras using chassis numbers for cars that were intended for production in 1965 but never built. The California Department of Motor Vehicles wasn't as enthusiastic about this plan and would only issue the cars titles stamped for off-road use. Only nine Completion Cobras were built.

As a workaround, Shelby rolled out his new CSX4000 series Cobras in 1996. These were sold by Shelby as rollers to be completed by an authorized dealer, allowing Shelby to skirt new-car emissions and crash-test requirements. When the 4000 series chassis numbers were used up, the identical CSX6000 series was rolled out. For enthusiasts of the traditional leaf-spring chassis, Shelby built the old-school CSX7000 289 FIA competition Cobra and a roadgoing counterpart, the CSX8000. All of the cars are available with either fiberglass or aluminum bodies (CSX1000 uses original bodies from AC in England), and there are even new 427 "side-oiler" engines being manufactured and sold by Shelby."

Flight Service wrote:

dean1484 wrote: Original 2015 1960s Cars.

Yes. "Shelby decided to cash in some unused chassis numbers in 1991, and offered what are now referred to as Completion Cobras. He hoped to sell them as new 1965 vintage Cobras using chassis numbers for cars that were intended for production in 1965 but never built. The California Department of Motor Vehicles wasn't as enthusiastic about this plan and would only issue the cars titles stamped for off-road use. Only nine Completion Cobras were built. As a workaround, Shelby rolled out his new CSX4000 series Cobras in 1996. These were sold by Shelby as rollers to be completed by an authorized dealer, allowing Shelby to skirt new-car emissions and crash-test requirements. When the 4000 series chassis numbers were used up, the identical CSX6000 series was rolled out. For enthusiasts of the traditional leaf-spring chassis, Shelby built the old-school CSX7000 289 FIA competition Cobra and a roadgoing counterpart, the CSX8000. All of the cars are available with either fiberglass or aluminum bodies (CSX1000 uses original bodies from AC in England), and there are even new 427 "side-oiler" engines being manufactured and sold by Shelby."

Remember when......... Chevy got out of racing and as part of it, along with not wanting to compete with the Corvette, Chevy didn't give ole Carroll any engines.... so he turned to Ford.

Looking at the above... and "remembering" the original Cobra's (Shelby's) shoestring budget.... I find it somewhat odd... especially about that last part....

and there are even new 427 "side-oiler" engines being manufactured and sold by Shelby."

brought this up just for contexts sake.......

I see this as being no different than when certain guitar manufacturers build authentic reissiues of desirable vintage models. They usually aren't 100% identical to the original, and a good quality original will always be worth more, but the reissiues usually have the right look, feel and sound and hold their value reasonably well. You also don't need a giant insurance policy on it if you're taking it on tour.

All that being said, the aluminum bodied car is too much, and I have a hard time accepting a fiberglass bodied Shelby as "authentic".

Agree with you HappyAndy on fiberglass being non authentic. I thought they were just getting the bodies from Kirkham anyways. Shoot, you can get a kirkham with all of the options in polished AL for under 200K

In reply to oldeskewltoy:

I was an article in Hemmings