I love the f150 raptors and the old Lightnings (gen 1 specifically) and the SRT10 Viper trucks. All over New Zealand I saw the Ranger Raptor everywhere . There is definitely a market for fast trucks.
But are people paying almost 100k for Shelby trucks that are single cabs?
Ugly.
There is a guy out there on a stock long block coyote with twins making 1k and running 8.5's...
Lightnings were single cab.
In reply to Knurled. :
Yup I know that. My brother in law bought a new on in 95, he still has. Paid around 21k for it
these days no one buys single cabs. And $21k in 1995 is $37k today
thus I was wondering given single cab is dead, do they buy it and do they pay almost $100k?
Some of these vehicles if you can wait?
Yes. Yes they do.
mr2s2000elise said:In reply to Knurled. :
Yup I know that. My brother in law bought a new on in 95, he still has. Paid around 21k for it
these days no one buys single cabs. And $21k in 1995 is $37k today
thus I was wondering given single cab is dead, do they buy it and do they pay almost $100k?
A '95 Lightning also makes less power than even a base 3.3l F-150, and weighs more too.
Which is kind of shocking to me, as I'd expect a '95 to weigh less given how much smaller it is (aluminum body on the new one notwithstanding) and I didn't expect the 3.3 to be as powerful as it is.
Point is, the guy spending close to $100k on a truck isn't going to use it as a truck any more than the guy with the Hellcat is going to be going on family vacations in it. If it's anything like half the Hellcats I hear about, it will go into storage and sit there for a while.
Heh, speaking of... the accountant who shares a building with us is a car guy. He was offered a Hellcat for sale that has ludicrously low mileage on it, like 40. He said, "That's great, but what will I DO with it? I wouldn't want to rack up the odometer!" Besides, he already owns one...
Ranger50 said:Ugly.
There is a guy out there on a stock long block coyote with twins making 1k and running 8.5's...
That’s a much better looking truck than the Super Snake.
The blue one looks 100x better.
But, it doesn't look like a Shelby.
Sometimes less is more. (Meaning subtle and clean looks better than loud an obnoxious, IMO)
I buy single cab trucks 
Before I bought my Ram, I was seriously trying to find an XL, single cab, 2wd, shortbed, 3.5 Ecoboost F150 with the XL Appearance package that was either blue or black.
I really wanted a 20l7+ to get the 10 speed auto but in the end, I found exactly zero with the options I wanted.
Most XLs are either the 3.3L or 2.7T. Or long bed. Or extended cab. Or super base trucks (fleet work trucks).
My initial goal was to build a budget muscle truck. Tune up the 3.5L and get bigger injectors and better intercooler. It's stupid easy to make ridiculous power with the 3.5L. Nothing crazy but safe, reliable power. Like 445hp/500lb ft to the wheels with just a 93 octane tune.
That was the dream but I ended up with a 2015 Ram 1500 Express single cab short bed 2wd with the Hemi and wonderful 8HP70. My eventual goal is to run an Edelbrock E-Force supercharger, full exhaust and maybe a cam or cylinder heads.
Or find a wrecked Hellcat and swap in the 707hp 6.2L. That would be amazeballs.
The Roush version is cheaper with a slight loss of power. The reg cab short beds look great.
In reply to stanger_missle :
I was in the same boat waiting on my diesel gate buyback to be official. I easily could option a Silverado or Ram with a v8, rcsb all day everyday. Ford was well you can HAVE the 5.0, but really were only selling non turbocharged v6's or you have to take a 4wd model. Ford never had the configurator set up to allow ecoboost 3.5's in anything but longer more expensive models.
In the end, I ended up with my used Avalanche.
Blows my mind- 700hp+ is just a thing you go get at any regular ass dealer. Used to be that kind of power meant you were the king and it was barely streetable. Now cars like my speed3 get walked by your average Camry.
What's a fully optioned F150 Super Mega Platinum (or whatever the hell they're calling it this week) go for? How many get used as trucks? $100,000 for a pickup is rediculous. So is $60,000. So is $50,000.
In reply to Appleseed :
I was playing with the configurator one night on Ford's website. Built one hell of an F450 uber tow rig for LESS than the platinum bullE36 M3 F150. The bullE36 M3 F150 was right around 95k, the 450 i built was around 70.
As it should be. An F450 is or should be a tow rig.
Maybe I'm skewed, but truck to me always meant rubber floors, crank windows, single cab, and an 8ft bed. 4x4 if you lived out west.
Appleseed said:As it should be. An F450 is or should be a tow rig.
Maybe I'm skewed, but truck to me always meant rubber floors, crank windows, single cab, and an 8ft bed. 4x4 if you lived out west.
That's because you see a truck as a tool, like a motorized wheelbarrow.
Other people see high end luxury trucks as cars that don't depreciate as hard as cars do, so they are cheaper to lease.
Section 179 of the IRS code, lets lot of people drive these
In reply to mr2s2000elise :
Bringing fuel taxes inline with where they were in the 80s, adjusted for inflation, would change that in a heartbeat.
Nah, who am I kidding. People haven't quit smoking when they raised to taxes to where a $2 pack of smokes now costs $8, people wouldn't change their driving habits either.
I remember gas being .68 cents a gallon, then 99cents a gallon. When it hit $1.25, sky was falling. I paid $4.79 today. $4.99 last month. (just raw numbers, not counted for inflation) .
I don't see people changin their driving habits. Heck I don't change mine.
In my neighborhood every house has 2 Teslas in driveway. Inside garages have Italian gas cars.....
I happened to be in a Ford showroom this past Friday morning, picking up a new to me used car. While waiting on the salesperson, I snapped this picture of the window sticker of a Shelby F-150.
One thing I have learned after years in the auto biz is you cant make a truck too expensive. Seriously.
Its weird. If I showed up to a family reunion in a 15 year old Cadillac I bought for 5k I would be "snooty". If I showed up in a 2021 Ford F450 King Elvis Unobtainium Edition with Kung Fu Grip costing 250k I would have "Done good".
I'd rather have a $50k F-150 Lariat that was plenty nice, and $45k left over for literally any performance car I could fathom.
RevRico said:In reply to Appleseed :
I was playing with the configurator one night on Ford's website. Built one hell of an F450 uber tow rig for LESS than the platinum bullE36 M3 F150. The bullE36 M3 F150 was right around 95k, the 450 i built was around 70.
Just like I can probably go to BMW and build a more expensive 3 series than 5 series.
But like-to-like, the F150 Platinum starts at $55k, the F450 Platinum starts at $80k.
A 401 CJ said:Ranger50 said:Ugly.
There is a guy out there on a stock long block coyote with twins making 1k and running 8.5's...
That’s a much better looking truck than the Super Snake.
I wish it had more wheel gap though. 
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