Woody
Woody GRM+ Memberand SuperDork
2/14/11 2:56 p.m.

I have a '96 Miata with factory air. I'm away from the car right now and I was wondering what year they made the transition from R12 to R134a.

Two of the projects on my to-do list this Spring are:

1) Update the A/C components on the Porsche so that it actually blows cold air.

and

2) Remove the Miata A/C system to lighten up the car for track use.

Then I got to thinking....

mad_machine
mad_machine GRM+ Memberand SuperDork
2/14/11 2:59 p.m.

ah.. just noticed you were away from the car... I was going to mention that it should say. I know my 96 BMW uses 134

1988RedT2
1988RedT2 Dork
2/14/11 3:29 p.m.

Pretty sure R12 was gone by '96, but '94's had it.

pilotbraden
pilotbraden HalfDork
2/14/11 3:36 p.m.

Use propane

Javelin
Javelin GRM+ Memberand SuperDork
2/14/11 3:37 p.m.

Can you even buy R12 anymore?

Woody
Woody GRM+ Memberand SuperDork
2/14/11 3:44 p.m.
Javelin wrote: Can you even buy R12 anymore?

You can, but I don't want to.

Keith
Keith GRM+ Memberand SuperDork
2/14/11 3:45 p.m.

Yup, I use R12 in my 1990 Miata. It's not cheap, but holy cow it's cold.

I'm pretty sure a 1996 is R134a.

jrw1621
jrw1621 SuperDork
2/14/11 3:46 p.m.

I think 1995 was the switch over year and the first year for r134 in all cars sold in the US

slefain
slefain SuperDork
2/14/11 4:09 p.m.

I gave my last pound of R12 to my buddy for his Miata. Apparently on the older models the R-134 doesn't work nearly as well due to the tiny system capacity.

triumph5
triumph5 Dork
2/14/11 4:13 p.m.

Odd, my '93 Protege runs 134, and either came that way, or the prior owner changed it over--which I find hard to believe, based on the level of care it got.

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