wearymicrobe wrote: But and this is my opinion if you want a old school 911 feel in a modern car a 997.1 S in a manual is just about the worlds most perfect modern enthusiast car. The Turbo is just comically overpowered for street driving even in the 996 model and the 997.2 and 991 S Turbo cars are even more unbelievable.
Interesting perspective. I'll have to take a look at 997.1S availability and pricing. You have me intrigued...
Possible one of the worse 996tt ads I've seen. No details, no interior pics, doesn't even say if it's a 6MT or auto.
In reply to docwyte:
ad text said: High miles, but priced right. Trying to buy another car quickly, so if that sells, I will keep this appreciating everyday car. 128k , 6spd manual. $28,000 firm
CLH wrote:wearymicrobe wrote: But and this is my opinion if you want a old school 911 feel in a modern car a 997.1 S in a manual is just about the worlds most perfect modern enthusiast car. The Turbo is just comically overpowered for street driving even in the 996 model and the 997.2 and 991 S Turbo cars are even more unbelievable.Interesting perspective. I'll have to take a look at 997.1S availability and pricing. You have me intrigued...
Drive them both and choose the one that fits your needs. If you want speed get the Turbo out of the gate. If you find the Turbo less fun on the street then I did a S is fantastic. If you want to spend the money find a GTS with a Aero kit, not going to be fully depreciated but seriously a fun car to drive.
I disagree on the 997.1 non-turbo cars as they have a non-serviceable IMS bearing. Stick with the turbo.
In reply to smokindav:
So, that's the only knock against them?
In reply to docwyte:
I found my 996tt in the local Autotrader. It'd been for sale for several weeks. It's a solid driver, not a garage queen. Fortunately it's been a great car and not expensive to own. I think they're still out there, but prices do seem to be on the increase.
In reply to yupididit:
Yes. 997 is last 911 before they reallly got bigger. The 997.2 used a new engine design which eliminates the IMS bearing but they are pricey and the decision becomes 996TT vs 997.2 non-turbo for the same money.
In reply to smokindav:
Oh I know that. I just think if the IMS is the only complaint for a 997.1 then it should be an easy decision to buy one.
I have put 6000 trouble free miles on mine, purchased with 35k miles for $40k price 18 months ago. I did do coil overs, exhaust, intake, clutch & flywheel, GT3 clutch set up, and a proprietary tune for a estimated 525 hp in its current form. The clutch is a hand full but the driving experience is brilliant and it is one fast ride.
Go for it while you can.
While the 996TT is very durable mechanically, its the trim bits on the inside that will get you. Watch for cars with wood or carbon kits, they tend to warp and crack with age and are a fortune to replace. However, a quick thinking GRMer can use this as a negotiation point at purchase then replace them with standard plastic 996 parts for dramatically less money.
Remember a 997.1 does not have a replaceable IMS bearing unless you split the case.
markwemple wrote: Remember a 997.1 does not have a replaceable IMS bearing unless you split the case.
Its also 40-50% cheaper and it is as fun as a Turbo on the street.
My opinion and just an opinion.
More like 20-30%
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