http://autos.yahoo.com/news/porsche-putting-engine-every-911-gt3-fires-destroy-152900643.html
A Porsche UK spokesperson said: A Porsche UK spokesperson confirmed to the Daily Telegraph that the defect was traced back to faulty screws used to join the piston connecting rods to the crankshaft, causing damage to the crankcase.
Ouch. But good of em to own it and do the right thing.
"A Porsche UK spokesperson confirmed to the Daily Telegraph that the defect was traced back to faulty screws used to join the piston connecting rods to the crankshaft, causing damage to the crankcase."
How does that cause a fire? Failed engine, yes, but fire?
the new fiero?
new engines or lock-tighted rod bolts? 
Flight Service wrote: "A Porsche UK spokesperson confirmed to the Daily Telegraph that the defect was traced back to faulty screws used to join the piston connecting rods to the crankshaft, causing damage to the crankcase." How does that cause a fire? Failed engine, yes, but fire?
Engine internals shoot out of the block, oil escapes and lands on exhaust parts, fire ignites.
Maybe they should have used bolts rather than screws.
Can I haz one of the old ones? I've got lots of really good screws in my garage to fix it with...
In reply to Basil Exposition:
I'm with you Basil!
Will a GT3 motor fit in a 914? 
In reply to rustybugkiller:
yes it will.
sign me up, too. I'll even drive to the nearest dealer (likely a bit of a drive away) and haul it home, free of charge! Heck, i'd even sign a legal release saying they are not at fault if it starts me on fire. I'd even take an engine sans electronics, just to use as a table top-gear style. Soo many options!
AngryCorvair wrote: In reply to rustybugkiller: yes it will.
IIRC, Chuck Beck built a 904 replica with carburetors on a 996 GT3 engine...
That guy is downright insane...
GameboyRMH wrote:Flight Service wrote: "A Porsche UK spokesperson confirmed to the Daily Telegraph that the defect was traced back to faulty screws used to join the piston connecting rods to the crankshaft, causing damage to the crankcase." How does that cause a fire? Failed engine, yes, but fire?Engine internals shoot out of the block, oil escapes and lands on exhaust parts, fire ignites.
ahhhh, I see said the blind man that didn't realize that the failure rate of a Porsche GT3 engine was, at minimum, 2 out of 792.
rustybugkiller wrote: In reply to Basil Exposition: I'm with you Basil! Will a GT3 motor fit in a 914?
Yes! And a Boxster too.
Giant Purple Snorklewacker wrote:rustybugkiller wrote: In reply to Basil Exposition: I'm with you Basil! Will a GT3 motor fit in a 914?Yes! And a Boxster too.
Mr. Brownell... paging Mr. Brownell
My guess is the replacement engines are being done more because it's faster/easier than a dealer tearing the engines down to fix the defect - especially when we're talking about a relatively small number of cars. I'm sure the yanked engines will go back to the factory, get fixed and then put on a shelf to serve and "remanufactured replacements".
Toyman01 wrote: Maybe they should have used bolts rather than screws.
Ian F wrote: My guess is the replacement engines are being done more because it's faster/easier than a dealer tearing the engines down to fix the defect - especially when we're talking about a relatively small number of cars.
My understanding from a tech at my local Porsche dealer is that most dealers don't have anyone qualified to tear open an engine anyway.
MattGent wrote:Toyman01 wrote: Maybe they should have used bolts rather than screws.
I was going to point that out, but didn't want to be pedantic. A screw just means it's threaded into something, it doesn't have a nut on the other end. (Although maybe one holding the wrench).
mfennell wrote:Ian F wrote: My guess is the replacement engines are being done more because it's faster/easier than a dealer tearing the engines down to fix the defect - especially when we're talking about a relatively small number of cars.My understanding from a tech at my local Porsche dealer is that most dealers don't have anyone qualified to tear open an engine anyway.
Quasi Mofo wrote:Giant Purple Snorklewacker wrote:Mr. Brownell... paging Mr. Brownellrustybugkiller wrote: In reply to Basil Exposition: I'm with you Basil! Will a GT3 motor fit in a 914?Yes! And a Boxster too.
Funny story, that...
The PO asked me what I planned to do with my new 1997 Boxster just before I drove away. I said "Realistically, it'll stay pretty stock. If I win the lottery, though, it's getting a GT3 engine."
oldeskewltoy wrote:mfennell wrote:Ian F wrote: My guess is the replacement engines are being done more because it's faster/easier than a dealer tearing the engines down to fix the defect - especially when we're talking about a relatively small number of cars.My understanding from a tech at my local Porsche dealer is that most dealers don't have anyone qualified to tear open an engine anyway.
Not qualified doesn't mean lacking the ability. It means that Porsche figures the need to go inside these engines is not worth the expense of training and special tools for all the techs at all the dealers. The original M96 engines were the same, but now people build, re-build and modify them at home. It doesn't imply Porsche dealers employee idiots.
Ian F wrote: My guess is the replacement engines are being done more because it's faster/easier than a dealer tearing the engines down to fix the defect - especially when we're talking about a relatively small number of cars. I'm sure the yanked engines will go back to the factory, get fixed and then put on a shelf to serve and "remanufactured replacements".
And I am going to assume that the "recall" is to get the engines back to the manufacturer for racing purposes and the replacement engines will be substandard.
At least, this is what happened to the Audi Sport Quattro. They came from the factory with aluminum block engines. Then Audi decided that they needed some Sport engines for racing spares but didn't want to make more, so they replaced some engines "under warranty". There are people with Sport engines sourced from ex-works drivers/teams, and the serial numbered car still exists, with the wrong engine in it...
Ian F wrote: My guess is the replacement engines are being done more because it's faster/easier than a dealer tearing the engines down to fix the defect - especially when we're talking about a relatively small number of cars. I'm sure the yanked engines will go back to the factory, get fixed and then put on a shelf to serve and "remanufactured replacements".
So you say, but personally I'm going to check for them to pop up on Woot! as "factory refurbished".
In reply to Basil Exposition:
Who knows... maybe Porsche will sell them. But either way, I wouldn't expect to find engines in the dumpster at your local P dealer... or for them to be sold cheaply after being fixed.
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