Advertising complaint

I meant to post this after receiving last months issue, but kept forgetting, and this month's issue doesn't have it, so that's good. But I still feel the need to get this off my chest.

The hard cardboard Simpson ad inserts are atrocious, horrible things, they grossly detract from my enjoyment of the magazine, and they make me NEVER want to spend money with that company.

I don't know who at Simpson thinks those are a good idea, but they should get fired and publicly humiliated, and I'm quite frankly disappointed and a little confused that the fine, upstanding people at GRM would agree to have those things in the magazine. At least the fullsize cardboard insert subscription cards you guys put in are perforated and easily removable.

I love everything else about the magazine and the community, so it makes those things all the more irritating.

First world problems.

DaveEstey wrote: First world problems.

Certainly is. We're talking about a magazine dedicated to being financially efficient with what amounts to expensive toys, lol.

Didn't say I lost sleep over it, just that it does both GRM and Simpson a disservice.

In reply to ReverendDexter:
I'm with you on this one. It's a PITA.
At least change it to one of those glued in things so I can rip it out and throw it away.

This came up in the Feedback forum, too: http://grassrootsmotorsports.com/forum/feedback/use-of-card-stock-inserts-in-the-magazine/43921/page1/

Thanks for the feedback.

Cool, thanks for listening, just one more reason that you guys are the only magazine I find worth subscribing to

Aw, shucks. Thanks. We do it for you. Well, and our parents.

Advertising works in different ways and visibility and "in your face-iveness" is certainly one of them. We do limited amounts of deals like this one, but will keep this and other feedback in mind when making them in the future.

Per

Sales Director

I'd rather have to remove card stock from the magazine than have to pay more for it.

MG Bryan wrote: I'd rather have to remove card stock from the magazine than have to pay more for it.

I'd be less grumpy-pants about it if the ads in question were easily removable.

Yeah, I don't like when you can't leave the magazine sitting without it flipping to some ad. You guys do very well at keeping extraneous inserts to a minimum.

I'd rather pay twice what I do for the mags and lose XX% of the freaking ads.

The adds pay way more than we do. The subscription can only cover shipping and the t-shirt. The adds are a good way for me to find products a lot better than google which has 1000 times more adds plus pop ups. So keep it coming I look forward to everything you guys do.

Just my view

I am like Lucy from Peanuts, I like ads.

I just wish the ad was at the back of the mag.

stan_d wrote: The adds are a good way for me to find products a lot better than google which has 1000 times more adds plus pop ups.

I was going to be flippant, and say, "There's a magazine?" (I've stated many times that I subscribed to support the forum) but instead I'll repeat something else that's been said here many times:

GRM does a good job making sure that ads are next to articles where they are relevant. This is a big deal. It is more work for the magazine layout guys, but it makes it more valuable to us.....If I tear out and file a magazine article, the ads that come with it are usually stuff I care about, too.

I wish everyone did that.

That placement is JG and I. We sit like to little old ladies making a quilt, bitching about their grandkids--but the quilt sure is pretty when we're done!

Per Schroeder wrote: That placement is JG and I. We sit like to little old ladies making a quilt, bitching about their grandkids--but the quilt sure is pretty when we're done!

Don't go blowing smoke up our butts, we all know its actually JG's Parrots doing the work, while you two are off playing with the project cars.

We love you guys, but that doesn't mean we won't haul you behind the wood shed when we need to....

(just in case you're as sharp as a bowling ball... that was a joke, son. Get it?)

I was not going to bring it up as the last time grm did this the dissatisfaction of many was made known to grm. But it has made reading this issue a pita. To the point that I think I have only read twenty percent of it. And because of this only seen twenty percent of the other adds. It is good to hear that another issue is on the way as I got so frustrated with it that it got relegated to the guest bathroom.

I tore it out of the magazine...took ten seconds, problem solved.

stan_d wrote: The adds pay way more than we do. The subscription can only cover shipping and the t-shirt.....

Easy for you to say. I got a 10 year subscription and a t- shirt wasn't even offered!

stuart in mn wrote: I tore it out of the magazine...took ten seconds, problem solved.

LOL I finally got my first actual subscription in (yeah, I know) and the first thing I did was try to tear that ad out, expecting it to be perfed like every other one I've ever seen.

I tore my magazine in half. Before I even berkeleying read it!

so, I enjoyed two very excellent and slightly shorter magazines. And learned to restrain myself a little more.

minimac wrote: I got a 10 year subscription and a t- shirt wasn't even offered!

When you bring the family to visit the Giant Rat of Orlando, take a trip to the beach and swing by GRM HQ. They will take care of you...

I also have a ten year script and considering the cost per issue I was good not getting a shirt or sticker. I rather have more issues

stuart in mn wrote: I tore it out of the magazine...took ten seconds, problem solved.

+1