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octavious
octavious Dork
6/5/24 9:33 a.m.

In reply to David S. Wallens :

That video is great. You are spot on about people yelling "what year" at stoplights too. 

docwyte
docwyte UltimaDork
6/5/24 9:45 a.m.

In reply to octavious :

Weird.  Maybe it's Colorado?  Others have said the same as you but whenever I price check, Hagerty is always the cheapest for me.  Grundy was ~$200 more, I'll check with American Collectors today...

David S. Wallens
David S. Wallens Editorial Director
6/5/24 9:54 a.m.

In reply to docwyte :

Based on what I have picked up over the years, insurance prices could very much vary by state. But, yes, always good to compare prices. 

David S. Wallens
David S. Wallens Editorial Director
6/5/24 9:55 a.m.
octavious said:

In reply to David S. Wallens :

That video is great. You are spot on about people yelling "what year" at stoplights too. 

Some dude once scared the crap out of me: “What year!?” he hollered while I was at a light. 

It is a very common question, though. (Maybe they want to order parts for me?)

David S. Wallens
David S. Wallens Editorial Director
6/5/24 10:11 a.m.

But, seriously, why do people ask the year? Maybe to fill in an information gap? I see this car, I like the way it looks, so now I’d like to know its age?

It is nice to see people interested in the Porsche. Hopefully it inspires them to think about getting a fun car. 

 

octavious
octavious Dork
6/6/24 1:10 a.m.

In reply to docwyte :

I live in TN.

octavious
octavious Dork
6/6/24 1:19 a.m.
David S. Wallens said:

But, seriously, why do people ask the year? Maybe to fill in an information gap? I see this car, I like the way it looks, so now I’d like to know its age?

It is nice to see people interested in the Porsche. Hopefully it inspires them to think about getting a fun car. 

 

I have a theory on this, I think people shout "what year" because they want to act like they are knowledgeable.  Whatever response they receive from the driver is usually treated with an "I thought so" or "I couldn't tell between (your response) and a year plus or minus".  I have on a couple of occasions attempted to test my theory by saying my car is a 1996 or 1956 instead of what it really is a 1976.  People have said it looks good and gone on about their day.  I think a lot of folks just don't want to see somebody and say "nice car".  They want to fell like they know something about cars when they see it.  It happens in my Willys too. And it doesn't bother me, that's just my theory on why people shout it. 

I think for us car guys we would say "I love your (insert car here) you've really made it look (nice, hot, sweet, spicy), good job" and just compliment the guy on his car. If it's in a car we're also interested in we might ask some more questions. 

docwyte
docwyte UltimaDork
6/6/24 8:30 a.m.

In reply to octavious :

Quote from American Collectors was well over Hagerty.  So, at least for me, in Colorado, Hagerty is the cheapest still.

David S. Wallens
David S. Wallens Editorial Director
6/6/24 9:13 a.m.

In reply to octavious :

Oh, totally. I think people just naturally want to know something. 

Pete. (l33t FS)
Pete. (l33t FS) GRM+ Memberand MegaDork
6/6/24 6:38 p.m.

In reply to octavious :

When people would ask "what year" for my black RX-7, my answer would be well, the car started as a 1984, but I think it averages out to 1998 or so by now smiley

David S. Wallens
David S. Wallens Editorial Director
6/6/24 8:30 p.m.

I am surprised how approachable the 911 is. It does get people asking about it, and that’s cool with me. :)

 

Tom1200
Tom1200 PowerDork
6/6/24 8:35 p.m.

If I buy an air cooled Porsche it may well end up being the 912E. It has the body style I like and the motor can be upgraded to around 130hp for reasonable money.

These cars are still in the mid 30s to low 40s.

 

David S. Wallens
David S. Wallens Editorial Director
6/6/24 8:35 p.m.

912Es do have a cool factor. One year only, too. 

David S. Wallens
David S. Wallens Editorial Director
6/7/24 10:07 a.m.

Recent pic just because. (Expired Fuji 400 shot with my Canon A-1.)

docwyte
docwyte UltimaDork
6/7/24 11:31 a.m.

Watercooled pic, just because.  cheeky

 

David S. Wallens
David S. Wallens Editorial Director
6/7/24 11:53 a.m.

In reply to docwyte :

Nice. Our neighbors have a last-year 996TT. You don’t necessarily hear it but you feel it.

preach
preach GRM+ Memberand UltraDork
6/7/24 12:36 p.m.

In reply to docwyte :

Water-cooled needs love too. My Cayman goes into the shop Wednesday for stuff I have no lift to do. I cannot wait to have it back.

RyanGreener (Forum Supporter)
RyanGreener (Forum Supporter) HalfDork
6/7/24 1:42 p.m.

Looking at a possible "driver spec" 993 for sale. Its got 135k miles and a small rust spot on the windshield area (common problem apparently). What does everyone think? Getting details as we speak but the price isn't bad and I'm just wondering if I should care about the mileage.

Teh E36 M3
Teh E36 M3 UltraDork
6/7/24 2:01 p.m.

How much "worse" are early 70's cars? Work colleague has a 72 targa with a retrofitted 3.2 and very tastefully flared rear fenders that's he's loosely interested in passing on. Similar to David- my wall had an early 80's targa poster... I know they are somewhat unloved (or were, in a past tense) but I think they look cool as hell.  Pre-75 works for me as well to avoid the annual smog testing in CA. 

preach
preach GRM+ Memberand UltraDork
6/7/24 2:58 p.m.

In reply to Teh E36 M3 :

I'd kill to put a 3.2 in my 914.

Teh E36 M3
Teh E36 M3 UltraDork
6/7/24 3:00 p.m.

You find the 3.2 and I'll help!

David S. Wallens
David S. Wallens Editorial Director
6/7/24 6:57 p.m.

In reply to RyanGreener (Forum Supporter) :

The 993 is a bit more complex than the earlier cars like mine: VarioRam, six-speed gearbox, power steering, etc. It was almost like a modern car. A good friend has a 993 Turbo, and even the headlight electronics are more involved that mine. Add in the rust issue, and I’d pay for a full PPI. 

If my 911 is a ’60s car built in the ’80s, the 993 is one updated for the ’90s. It’s way cool–just a bit more involved, though. 

David S. Wallens
David S. Wallens Editorial Director
6/7/24 6:58 p.m.
Teh E36 M3 said:

How much "worse" are early 70's cars? Work colleague has a 72 targa with a retrofitted 3.2 and very tastefully flared rear fenders that's he's loosely interested in passing on. Similar to David- my wall had an early 80's targa poster... I know they are somewhat unloved (or were, in a past tense) but I think they look cool as hell.  Pre-75 works for me as well to avoid the annual smog testing in CA. 

I have very much warmed up to Targas. Once you lower them a bit, they look way cool.

What induction does that car have? Is it 3.2L Carrera all the way through? 

Tom1200
Tom1200 PowerDork
6/7/24 11:25 p.m.

In reply to David S. Wallens :

My wife and son tell me targas are ugly but I still like them.

Nathan JansenvanDoorn
Nathan JansenvanDoorn Dork
6/8/24 5:07 a.m.
RyanGreener (Forum Supporter) said:

Looking at a possible "driver spec" 993 for sale. Its got 135k miles and a small rust spot on the windshield area (common problem apparently). What does everyone think? Getting details as we speak but the price isn't bad and I'm just wondering if I should care about the mileage.

Honestly, if you can swing it and the PPI is ok, I'd do it. While more complex than the earlier cars, they really are very serviceable machines, with a pretty bulletproof drivetrain. If it doesn't capture your attention as a long termer, it's unlikely that you'll regret the experience. I just came across these photos from server years ago. The frunk made a serviceable change table, and forward facing baby seats fit just fine. Great memories, and unlike anything I've ever had.  I bought it cheap, replaced the front wiring harness (corrosion), fixed some leaks, and eventually did a top end rebuild. Still the cheapest car per month or per mile car I've ever had.


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