Dusterbd13-michael
Dusterbd13-michael MegaDork
2/24/23 11:25 a.m.

Good friend of mine has a 1600cc powered trike. He moneyed with timing and carb trying to doagnose an issue (vacuum leaks and loose choke).

We've corrected the chocke and vacuum leaks i believe, and i now need to set timing and carb (single central carb. Looks stock)

I haven't alever berkeleyed with one of these. 

Anyone got a morons guide to doing timing and carb adjustments on these?

preach (dudeist priest)
preach (dudeist priest) GRM+ Memberand SuperDork
2/24/23 11:27 a.m.

John Muir's book is free on PDF if you search.

I can't here at work.

outasite
outasite HalfDork
2/24/23 11:31 a.m.

Rather than attempt to remember and explain the very basic procedures, I suggest Youtube or How to Keep your Volkswagen Alive.

stuart in mn
stuart in mn MegaDork
2/24/23 12:09 p.m.
preach (dudeist priest) said:

John Muir's book is free on PDF if you search.

I can't here at work.

Here's one place where you can get a pdf copy, there are probably others too.  http://www.users.on.net/~agonza/dev/How%20to%20Keep%20Your%20VW%20Alive%20OCR%20done.pdf  I think it's essential for anyone who owns a classic VW.

rustomatic
rustomatic HalfDork
2/24/23 2:02 p.m.

It had something to do with getting a trouble light, hooking it up to power, then you basically turn the dizzy enough to open the points (light comes on), and like magic, you have timing.  This is of course after you have set the proper gap in the points with a feeler gauge . . .

I don't miss the days of lying on my back in a parking lot in the heat of summer to do the quarterly valve adjustment.

1988RedT2
1988RedT2 MegaDork
2/24/23 2:10 p.m.
rustomatic said:

It had something to do with getting a trouble light, hooking it up to power, then you basically turn the dizzy enough to open the points (light comes on), and like magic, you have timing.  This is of course after you have set the proper gap in the points with a feeler gauge . . .

Feeler gauge?  No, no.  You set the points gap with a matchbook cover.  laugh

cfvwtuner
cfvwtuner Reader
2/24/23 2:53 p.m.

Adjust the valves to .006 dead cold.  Set the dwell, I never have luck with the feeler guage settings.   Timing, run at idle, and turn the dizzy till the notch (not the dent) lines up with the split in the case.  Max advance at about 30 degrees BTC.  Mixture screw about 2 turns out.  

preach (dudeist priest)
preach (dudeist priest) GRM+ Memberand SuperDork
2/24/23 4:06 p.m.
stuart in mn said:
preach (dudeist priest) said:

John Muir's book is free on PDF if you search.

I can't here at work.

Here's one place where you can get a pdf copy, there are probably others too.  http://www.users.on.net/~agonza/dev/How%20to%20Keep%20Your%20VW%20Alive%20OCR%20done.pdf  I think it's essential for anyone who owns a classic VW.

It is in my opinion too. Thanks for the back-up on providing the link.

I actually saw a spiral wound one for sale on NH Craigslist today for $30. I am tempted but my wife already bought a new glue-bound one. She got one to read cover to cover and now has asked for me to look for a 1600dp so she can rebuild it and learn hands on. Her dream is a turbo Karmann Ghia and wants to build the engine herself.

aircooled
aircooled MegaDork
2/24/23 5:23 p.m.

30 deg total advance seems to work for most all engines.  Total advance is a better way to set most engines.

Dusterbd13-michael
Dusterbd13-michael MegaDork
2/24/23 6:48 p.m.

Awesome. Thanks everyone! 

Pete. (l33t FS)
Pete. (l33t FS) GRM+ Memberand MegaDork
2/24/23 6:57 p.m.

I too have had zero luck with setting points by anything other than a dwell meter.  Feeler gauges and such assume that none of the parts are worn out.

See any NEW points distributors lately?

But setting timing with a test light usually gets you dead nuts, at least for base timing. When the points open IS when the spark happens.

porschenut
porschenut HalfDork
2/25/23 8:49 a.m.

And the warm up time should be the same as the time it takes to roll a cigarette.  I also remember hor to remove the flywheel bolt with a hammer and chisel.  Took me 20 years to accept that proper tools were better than hammers, chisels and hack saws.

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