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93EXCivic
93EXCivic SuperDork
1/20/12 2:58 p.m.
93EXCivic wrote:
alfadriver wrote: Find a good amount of aluminum honeycomb, learn how to connect it together, and you get a super strong and super light racar core. Just like they made them in the 70's and early 80s.
There is a special adhesive used for that IIRC

An adhesive foam is used that requires high heat in order to cure also a vacuum bag is recommended. Building a frame would be a very difficult process.

kazoospec
kazoospec Reader
1/20/12 3:07 p.m.
Schmidlap wrote: Kazoospec - I think you've just destroyed my weekend by posting that link. Thank goodness its been 15+ years since I've been into flight simulators because otherwise I'd be contacting the guy with the A-10 cockpit to turn it into a simulator (although I really doubt I could afford it). Bob

Yeah, I went through a simulator phase about 10 years ago. Ended up buying an F-4 Phantom ejection seat off from ebay, but my quest to build a replica cockpit ran out of steam and/or money.

MG Bryan
MG Bryan HalfDork
1/20/12 3:15 p.m.
93EXCivic wrote:
93EXCivic wrote:
alfadriver wrote: Find a good amount of aluminum honeycomb, learn how to connect it together, and you get a super strong and super light racar core. Just like they made them in the 70's and early 80s.
There is a special adhesive used for that IIRC
An adhesive foam is used that requires high heat in order to cure also a vacuum bag is recommended. Building a frame would be a very difficult process.

Supposedly it can be worked with with relative ease. Can't say I've been there or done that though. http://autospeed.com/cms/A_110989/article.html

Appleseed
Appleseed SuperDork
1/20/12 3:19 p.m.
93EXCivic wrote: I have always wanted to do an aircraft themed hot rod....

Look up Back Seat Betty, a hotrod built by my friends.

93EXCivic
93EXCivic SuperDork
1/20/12 3:20 p.m.

In reply to MG Bryan:

My experience with the aluminum honeycomb and the method they described was that the fiberglass would peel away from the honeycomb. I can say I am expert but we spent some time playing with it to make a few items for our human powered moonbuggy.

slefain
slefain SuperDork
1/20/12 3:21 p.m.
MG Bryan wrote:
93EXCivic wrote:
93EXCivic wrote:
alfadriver wrote: Find a good amount of aluminum honeycomb, learn how to connect it together, and you get a super strong and super light racar core. Just like they made them in the 70's and early 80s.
There is a special adhesive used for that IIRC
An adhesive foam is used that requires high heat in order to cure also a vacuum bag is recommended. Building a frame would be a very difficult process.
Supposedly it can be worked with with relative ease. Can't say I've been there or done that though. http://autospeed.com/cms/A_110989/article.html

My friend uses 1/2" aluminum honeycomb as floorboards in his hotrods. Strong as hell, very light. He picked up a bunch of special glue-in inserts yesterday for bolting stuff in place. I had aluminum board like that in my life but when we got back to the shop he showed me how the floor of a project car was made with the stuff.

mad_machine
mad_machine GRM+ Memberand SuperDork
1/20/12 7:48 p.m.

I just want a control stick to make into a shifter

kb58
kb58 HalfDork
1/20/12 9:25 p.m.

There's one of those yards next to our company airport but they will not sell to ordinary people. Nope, they found out the liability is huge ("it's all your fault because you sold me that old jet engine that blew up in my Bonneville car...") so they only sell to movie studios. It really sucks too, 'cause I'd love to get my hands on an APU turbine assembly... the things I could do with that... mmmm, turbine.

irish44j
irish44j Dork
1/20/12 10:54 p.m.

A-10 front fuselage/cockpit + GAU-8 + Crown Vic chassis and engine = Lemons dominance!

AngryCorvair
AngryCorvair GRM+ Memberand SuperDork
1/21/12 8:58 a.m.
kb58 wrote: There's one of those yards next to our company airport but they will not sell to ordinary people. Nope, they found out the liability is huge ("it's all your fault because you sold me that old jet engine that blew up in my Bonneville car...") so they only sell to movie studios. It really sucks too, 'cause I'd love to get my hands on an APU turbine assembly... the things I could do with that... mmmm, turbine.

my crystal ball shows kb58 researching what it takes to be considered a "movie studio"...

Curmudgeon
Curmudgeon SuperDork
1/21/12 9:08 a.m.

[enabler]The book 'Motorcycle Engine Race Cars' has a whole section on aluminum honeycomb structures. [/enabler]

mad_machine
mad_machine GRM+ Memberand SuperDork
1/21/12 10:42 a.m.
AngryCorvair wrote:
kb58 wrote: There's one of those yards next to our company airport but they will not sell to ordinary people. Nope, they found out the liability is huge ("it's all your fault because you sold me that old jet engine that blew up in my Bonneville car...") so they only sell to movie studios. It really sucks too, 'cause I'd love to get my hands on an APU turbine assembly... the things I could do with that... mmmm, turbine.
my crystal ball shows kb58 researching what it takes to be considered a "movie studio"...

friend of mine makes movies for a living..

carguy123
carguy123 SuperDork
1/21/12 11:24 a.m.

My daughter is in the business and I now do weekly videos for my business. I wonder if those count?

pres589
pres589 Dork
1/21/12 11:42 a.m.
kb58 wrote: ...I'd love to get my hands on an APU turbine assembly... the things I could do with that... mmmm, turbine.

I'm really curious what you plan on doing with an APU. Wicked space heater? Turn kerosene into noise? Make 28VDC real well?

DILYSI Dave
DILYSI Dave SuperDork
1/21/12 12:20 p.m.

I've always wanted to take a random switch panel and rewire it for use in a racecar, though still looking like an aircraft part.

Like this - http://www.ebay.com/itm/Flight-Panel-Avionics-14-Buttons-14-Switches-/140438246330?pt=Motors_Aviation_Parts_Gear&vxp=mtr&hash=item20b2c593ba

Also - Brian - Give me a shout next time you're headed there, if you don't mind a tagalong.

Teh E36 M3
Teh E36 M3 Dork
1/21/12 1:00 p.m.

Just getting a bunch of aircraft circuit breakers would be sweet- berkeley fuses.

Osterkraut
Osterkraut SuperDork
1/21/12 2:11 p.m.
stroker wrote: My good friend always wanted to build a real-life sized computer game simulator out of an old airliner fuselage where you'd be on "Looking Glass" monitoring your computers during The Big One. You'd have the plane bank, turn and shudder just like the real thing while you're playing Nuke-yoo-ler Confrontation with the Russkies...

Why you'd go through all that trouble to build an EC-135 simulator is beyond me. I can save you a lot of time and money: tape a picture of some steam gauges to the back of the seat in front of you next time you fly commercial.

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