Colin Wood
Colin Wood Associate Editor
11/20/24 2:02 p.m.
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The best of both worlds? The Street Car Shootout, SCCA’s newest program, combines the challenge of autocross with the thrill of time attack.

Slated for February 15-16 at Las Vegas Motor Speedway, the SCCA Street Car Shootout starts with competitors running four autocross runs on a giant lot located east of Las Vegas Motor Speedway–the same pad that hosted …

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J.A. Ackley
J.A. Ackley Senior Editor
11/20/24 2:56 p.m.

Personally, I love this best of both worlds concept. It'll make things interesting.

theruleslawyer
theruleslawyer Reader
11/20/24 3:17 p.m.

Interesting, though this- "Top times from each of the three competition elements will then be added to decide the winners." probably means the time attack is going to be more important than autocross. IME there tends to be more separation in TT. If I were running it, I'd throw in a 'must use the same time the whole weekend' in there.

Tom1200
Tom1200 PowerDork
11/20/24 3:48 p.m.

There will be one here in Vegas.

codrus (Forum Supporter)
codrus (Forum Supporter) GRM+ Memberand UltimaDork
11/20/24 3:57 p.m.
theruleslawyer said:

Interesting, though this- "Top times from each of the three competition elements will then be added to decide the winners." probably means the time attack is going to be more important than autocross. IME there tends to be more separation in TT. If I were running it, I'd throw in a 'must use the same time the whole weekend' in there.

It says there are two autox times included though, one forwards and one backwards.

But yeah, to balance them properly you'd need to normalize the times.

theruleslawyer
theruleslawyer Reader
11/20/24 4:32 p.m.
codrus (Forum Supporter) said:
theruleslawyer said:

Interesting, though this- "Top times from each of the three competition elements will then be added to decide the winners." probably means the time attack is going to be more important than autocross. IME there tends to be more separation in TT. If I were running it, I'd throw in a 'must use the same time the whole weekend' in there.

It says there are two autox times included though, one forwards and one backwards.

But yeah, to balance them properly you'd need to normalize the times.

Probably the easiest way is to change it to a % of fastest time for each class rather than raw time. Or just do a points system for finish place like imsa, etc. Then the gaps don't really matter, just the order. You'd probably want to average the autox runs to maintain the balance between events with something like that.

ClearWaterMS
ClearWaterMS HalfDork
11/20/24 4:43 p.m.

isn't this what Optima does for their ultimate street car challenge?  I think they also add a few other components but the idea applies

 

dps214
dps214 SuperDork
11/20/24 6:10 p.m.
theruleslawyer said:

Interesting, though this- "Top times from each of the three competition elements will then be added to decide the winners." probably means the time attack is going to be more important than autocross. IME there tends to be more separation in TT. If I were running it, I'd throw in a 'must use the same time the whole weekend' in there.

It's not specifically mentioned but since it appears to be sanctioned as a TT event, I would assume the tire requirement still applies.

Andy Hollis
Andy Hollis
11/20/24 9:40 p.m.

The other way to look at this is...you trade off all your Saturday TT laps for a handful of autocross runs.

Uh...no thanks.

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