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Ranger50
Ranger50 UberDork
1/26/13 7:33 p.m.

Damnit.

ransom
ransom GRM+ Memberand SuperDork
1/26/13 7:36 p.m.

At least they're selling?

Ranger50
Ranger50 UberDork
1/26/13 7:48 p.m.

In reply to ransom:

Rolex 24hr race... #00, last one "running", lost a rear main and is out after having to fix a high pressure fuel line earlier.

ransom
ransom GRM+ Memberand SuperDork
1/26/13 7:51 p.m.

Ah, I thought you were trying to see one on a lot... Thought I'd missed first sightings in the wild...

Too bad about the racers... I was hoping for a more auspicious beginning.

bmw88rider
bmw88rider GRM+ Memberand New Reader
1/26/13 7:57 p.m.

Yeah. all out with engine issues. Hope they get it worked out before they get here to Austin. I can't wait to watch them here.

mazdeuce
mazdeuce Dork
1/26/13 8:00 p.m.

Edit: racecars. Right. I'm and idiot. Carry on.

Maroon92
Maroon92 MegaDork
1/26/13 8:02 p.m.

He's talking about the GX class race cars at Daytona.

They are all out, and John Doonan has confirmed that none will be returning to the track...

racerfink
racerfink SuperDork
1/26/13 8:07 p.m.

I think the SpeedSource car is the only one doing the whole season.

Ranger50
Ranger50 UberDork
1/26/13 8:18 p.m.
racerfink wrote: I think the SpeedSource car is the only one doing the whole season.

Which is sad, but given GX isn't a "real" class, more of a catch all for everything else....

Maroon92
Maroon92 MegaDork
1/26/13 10:24 p.m.

Technically, all three of the Mazda6s in Daytona were built and prepared by SpeedSource.

Anti-stance
Anti-stance SuperDork
1/26/13 11:25 p.m.

I am disappointed with this.

carguy123
carguy123 UltimaDork
1/27/13 7:33 a.m.

And every piece had to be custom made. I think I heard that they didn't get the cars until a few days before the race. All they had were the engines prior to that.

banzaitoyota
banzaitoyota New Reader
1/27/13 7:38 a.m.

What a letdown after the hype

Maroon92
Maroon92 MegaDork
1/27/13 8:38 a.m.
carguy123 wrote: And every piece had to be custom made. I think I heard that they didn't get the cars until a few days before the race. All they had were the engines prior to that.

The engines ran a bunch of hours on the dyno, but were not installed in a chassis until the roar before the 24 where they found a TON of cooling issues. No airflow to the intercooler was one problem...

They only had a single car ready just in time for the test a few weeks back. Even then, it was only just ready, and didn't even have time for paint. Since the test, they had to finalize the test car, and build two more and prepare them as well. Busy busy in that shop over the last couple of months. I'm surprised they made it, honestly.

GregWClassic
GregWClassic New Reader
1/27/13 10:21 a.m.

I am also dissapointed. Maybe they can get some set up and development done before the next race. Good luck to them. We need an alternative to VW for affordable Diesel passenger cars.

white_fly
white_fly Reader
1/27/13 2:08 p.m.

As a former employee of Speedsource and current fan, it was a disappointing result. However, even if all the cars had performed flawlessly the Caymans were 5 seconds faster per lap. There was no chance of competing. Seems like the rules could use some adjustment.

yamaha
yamaha SuperDork
1/27/13 3:38 p.m.

In reply to white_fly:

I'll wait to hold judgement on this.......if the skyactives are just slow, and the Cayman is within the rules , I see no issue other than build a faster car.

Maroon92
Maroon92 MegaDork
1/27/13 4:21 p.m.

One of the caymans was 4 seconds clear of the other two. This is just indicative of a brand new class with a complete lack of development.

Napleton knows their Caymans, and they have been working on racing Caymans for about 4 years now. Of course they are going to put on a good show.

Double_Wishbone
Double_Wishbone Reader
1/27/13 4:28 p.m.
GregWClassic wrote: I am also dissapointed. Maybe they can get some set up and development done before the next race. Good luck to them. We need an alternative to VW for affordable Diesel passenger cars.

Most definitely. Hopefully despite the lackluster start we can see some good things with diesels coming up and a surge in interest.

carguy123
carguy123 UltimaDork
1/27/13 4:35 p.m.
yamaha wrote: In reply to white_fly: I'll wait to hold judgement on this.......if the skyactives are just slow, and the Cayman is within the rules , I see no issue other than build a faster car.

Considering it's not like the Mazda is really in the same class as the Cayman on the streets and the the parity is supposed to come from the rules I'd say the rules need to be adjusted.

yamaha
yamaha SuperDork
1/27/13 6:02 p.m.

In reply to carguy123:

Was the rx8 ever in the same class as everything it raced?

Enyar
Enyar Reader
1/28/13 8:19 a.m.

What a bummer!

golfduke
golfduke New Reader
1/28/13 9:11 a.m.

Like others said though, it really isn't all that surprising. The program was cobbled together at the last minute and teething issues were expected.

Ranger50
Ranger50 UberDork
1/28/13 9:20 a.m.

It's probably all the Bosch crap on it... LOL. J/K!

Maroon92
Maroon92 MegaDork
1/28/13 11:25 a.m.
carguy123 wrote:
yamaha wrote: In reply to white_fly: I'll wait to hold judgement on this.......if the skyactives are just slow, and the Cayman is within the rules , I see no issue other than build a faster car.
Considering it's not like the Mazda is really in the same class as the Cayman on the streets and the the parity is supposed to come from the rules I'd say the rules need to be adjusted.

The Mazda shares almost nothing with it's street car compatriots. The new Mazda6 Skyactive racer is a rear wheel drive, tube frame racer based on the outgoing RX8 with a slightly longer wheelbase.

The Caymans, on the other hand, come off the assembly line as street cars in Zuffenhausen...

Sure, the Mazdas need MORE to be competitive...

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