Scott Lear
Scott Lear
9/11/17 9:56 a.m.

Photos by Kevin Adolf

There are many great rivalries in the automotive world, but on our shores none rages hotter than the battle of Ford versus Chevrolet. The diehards get tattoos declaring their allegiance. They decorate their vehicles with stickers either boasting about their brand of choice or deriding the competition. Sometimes, after downing enough liquid courage, they even throw …

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crankwalk
crankwalk GRM+ Memberand Dork
9/11/17 5:32 p.m.

1. This car is badass.

 

2. The photography in this article is some of the best I have ever seen for the mag. Seriously, striking shots.

solfly
solfly HalfDork
9/12/17 3:15 p.m.

28 VOLTS?

mndsm
mndsm MegaDork
9/12/17 4:12 p.m.

Didn't this car cause a whole lot of hate mail? 

bmw88rider
bmw88rider GRM+ Memberand SuperDork
9/12/17 4:18 p.m.

I have gotten to be a big GM V8 fan. It's just too much performance for the dollar. I use to think swaps like this were evil. 

 

Now, The LS is such a great platform given the size and weight there is no reason not to go that route. Getting 750 WHP is not unreasonable for a streetable car. 

snailmont5oh
snailmont5oh HalfDork
9/12/17 4:19 p.m.

Is it wrong that I get more annoyed by the fact that Ford people adopted the "GM/Mopar-ism" of "body" to describe the running gear of Fox Chassis cars than the fact that some people choose to put GM power plants in their Fox Chassis cars?

Also, I'm a little jealous that Ford didn't just make an aluminum block 302 at some point so that I could have a cheap, reliable, plentiful aluminum engine in my car with a Ford oval on it. 

z31maniac
z31maniac MegaDork
9/12/17 4:29 p.m.
snailmont5oh said:

Is it wrong that I get more annoyed by the fact that Ford people adopted the "GM/Mopar-ism" of "body" to describe the running gear of Fox Chassis cars than the fact that some people choose to put GM power plants in their Fox Chassis cars?

Huh?

I remember them being called Fox Body mustangs when I was 15.......................20 years ago.

mazdeuce
mazdeuce MegaDork
9/12/17 4:37 p.m.

The fact that the car is still road legal makes is damn near perfect. 

JBasham
JBasham Reader
9/13/17 10:34 a.m.

Holy cow.  LS engine mated to a Ford transmission with a Corvette pilot bearing?  Nice, and I wonder whether it can be done with a T5.  I'm guessing he isn't using one.  Speaking of, did you see that shifter linkage setup?  Go back and look.

Anyway, back to the transmission.  Even if I scrape up the extra cash needed to use an LS with GM T56  transmission instead of a Ford 302/331 and T5 set-up, the GM transmission of the LS combo drives the weight up more than I would like.  On the other hand, the Ford combo weighs about the same as the motor and trans combo out of an E36 M3.

If I start running 400+ HP through a T5 and smacking it around, I will need a spare on hand and I will need to learn how to repair the internals.  But damn, it's half the weight of a T56.

Crackers
Crackers HalfDork
9/13/17 11:29 a.m.

Sweet avatar!

David S. Wallens
David S. Wallens Editorial Director
9/13/17 2:29 p.m.
crankwalk said:

1. This car is badass.

 

2. The photography in this article is some of the best I have ever seen for the mag. Seriously, striking shots.

Thanks. That's all Kevin Adolf. He tunes cars, too: http://www.flimflamspeed.com

JimLev
JimLev New Reader
10/11/17 11:10 p.m.

Great story.

I'd also get a bunch of crap from the purests when I put a 175 shot of nitrous on my 540/6.

dannyzabolotny
dannyzabolotny Reader
10/12/17 12:34 a.m.
JimLev said:

Great story.

I'd also get a bunch of crap from the purests when I put a 175 shot of nitrous on my 540/6.

Hey Jim! Nice to see you here!

Yeah, I never understood the Ford vs. Chevy battles... they both make good products and they both make bad products. Combining the best of both isn't a sin in my eyes, I think it's pretty cool. Some of the fastest Fox-body Mustangs at the drag strip have truck LS engines with giant turbos, because they take boost really well and the parts are cheap for when you inevitably blow them up. A turbo LS can easily get past 1000hp without pushing too hard.

DeadSkunk
DeadSkunk UberDork
10/12/17 7:27 a.m.

I think there'll be a Chevy powered Fox body at the Challenge this year.

Dirtydog
Dirtydog GRM+ Memberand Reader
10/12/17 7:52 a.m.

It was close to 18 years ago, a friend of mine stuffed a 454 Chevy into a 1986 Mustang.   First trip to Englishtown  NJ, the folks in the Pits could not believe it.  After turning a 9.90 pass (no power enhancements) the Techs tossed him for not having the correct safety items.  This was done just like GRMer's, in a backyard garage.   That's one reason I love this place.

NOHOME
NOHOME UltimaDork
10/12/17 8:40 a.m.
JBasham said:

If I start running 400+ HP through a T5 and smacking it around, I will need a spare on hand and I will need to learn how to repair the internals.  But damn, it's half the weight of a T56.

Easiest way to recognize a T56 is because it is broken.

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