z31maniac said:STM317 said:ultraclyde (Forum Supporter) said:My S197 is plenty of power on the street with 325, but I still would have a hard time making the justification for a more complex, more high strung engine with 150 less HP if the real world pricing was the same.
You say you don't want a GT - what makes the EcoBoost more attractive? Not downing your choice by any means, but it sounds like there are advantages I don't know about. Please share.
What makes the Ecoboost more complex than the Coyote? Just a turbo? These days the Coyote runs 12:1 compression, has VVT, and essentially has two fuel systems with both port injection and direct injection. So it's not exactly a low stressed, simple engine that can be fixed with a rock and some twine for a couple of bucks like older v8s.
Adding a turbo, intercooler, all the the intake/exhaust piping, oil/coolant lines to the turbo........................none of that is more complex than an NA engine.........that still has the features you mentioned. Definitely no more heat under the hood with a turbo engine either.
Are you just being contrarian for fun?
Part of The gist of the post I replied to was that the Ecoboost was more complex than the Coyote and therefore, the low tech, old v8 might be the more reliable option long term. But the Coyote isn't low tech anymore. Both engines are high compression. Both engines are DOHC with VVT. Both engines have direct injection fuel systems (Coyote has port injection as well so you get 16 fuel injectors to worry about vs 4 in the Ecoboost). An Intercooler and turbo plumbing aren't really complex and they're not going to require costly maintenance, so while they do represent more components than the Coyote they shouldn't really cause any potential buyer to sweat long term maintenance or repair costs. So in the long term ownership consideration, the turbo is really the only complex and potentially costly thing that the Ecoboost has that the Coyote lacks, and there are a ton of ecoboosts running well into 6 figure mileage on their stock turbos.
If you want the v8, get the v8. But don't buy it based on dated thinking that it's going to last longer or have fewer reliability concerns than the "highly stressed" 4 cylinder.
