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einy (Forum Supporter)
einy (Forum Supporter) Dork
3/29/21 6:35 p.m.

Both were good races, but running them at night would have alleviated the vision problems driving into the setting sun during the Cup race.

mikeatrpi
mikeatrpi HalfDork
3/29/21 6:41 p.m.

That was really cool!  Good last session and pretty clean finish ... I expected another yellow!

iceracer
iceracer MegaDork
3/29/21 8:24 p.m.

They did water it to cut the dust between sessions.

Didn't help much

Day time races on dirt are usually dusty, especially with bright sunshine.

californiamilleghia
californiamilleghia SuperDork
3/29/21 8:35 p.m.

I watched a 10 minute highlight video and it looked fun , 

Bristol always has a bunch of crashes so this was just a few more , 

I was amazed that there was no mud after all the rain , the ground keepers did a great job !

And they say they will be doing it next year !   YEAH

Next we need Daytona race on the sand !

GCrites80s
GCrites80s HalfDork
3/29/21 8:38 p.m.
slowbird said:

I hope it turns out to be an ok race. The rain is certainly not helping.

I read that Tony Stewart was pissed that they picked Bristol instead of Eldora to run a Cup race on dirt. That's why the trucks are going to Knoxville instead of Eldora later in the season, Tony took his ball and went home after being snubbed...

He's got a point though, a dedicated dirt track would not have as many logistical issues to work through.

They probably don't like that he's starting up a rival stock car series, even if he doesn't plan on it being nearly as big.

David S. Wallens
David S. Wallens Editorial Director
3/30/21 11:13 a.m.

Did the work truck actually hit the race truck? 

slowbird
slowbird UltraDork
3/30/21 12:17 p.m.

In reply to David S. Wallens :

I saw a video on twitter, it looks like the back of the work truck started to slide down the banking a bit as it was passing the already crashed #4 truck, and the big thingy that hangs off the back of the work truck clipped the corner of the #4 truck and caused it to roll a bit and nose into the inside wall, damaging it further.

 

Streetwiseguy
Streetwiseguy MegaDork
3/30/21 1:13 p.m.

That was a lot more entertaining than I was counting on.  The banking really helped.  The trucks at El Dora are a bit bland to me, not fast enough.  They looked a bit quick yesterday, although a proper dirt car would have kicked them all silly.

New York Nick
New York Nick GRM+ Memberand Reader
3/30/21 1:37 p.m.

In reply to Streetwiseguy :

I agree. It would be a good race to toss the rule book and use a NASCAR dirt late model rule book. I don't think it would cost any of them teams any more money and they cars would run like a dirt car should. At a minimum they should take the glass out of them so the drivers can see. 
I also agree on the previous comment that night dirt races are easier to see.

iceracer
iceracer MegaDork
3/30/21 2:01 p.m.

Mud gets on the face shield instead of the windshield.

Seems windshields steamed up on the inside.   Better ventilation needed.

 Seems they need to add more calcium.

dxman92
dxman92 Dork
4/3/21 10:18 a.m.

There is a good condensed highlight video on Youtube of the cup race. Interesting to see the dirt coming up and seeing the pavement towards the end of the race.

iceracer
iceracer MegaDork
4/3/21 11:07 a.m.

If you are referring to the black surface,  that was rubber from all of the 50 lap tires.

dxman92
dxman92 Dork
4/3/21 2:11 p.m.

I stand corrected then.

MotorsportsGordon
MotorsportsGordon Dork
4/4/21 1:00 a.m.

Yup with dry slick dirt tracks rubber gets put down like a pavement track. However dry slicks can be more like driving on ice then pavement.

speed wise stuff like the local eldora stock car class and imca stock cars etc were faster. Looked like the hornets were only a second or so slower.

GCrites80s
GCrites80s HalfDork
4/4/21 11:10 a.m.

Not much on dirt weighs as much as a Cup car. Even a Street Stock is what, 600 pounds lighter?

MotorsportsGordon
MotorsportsGordon Dork
4/4/21 11:48 a.m.
GCrites80s said:

Not much on dirt weighs as much as a Cup car. Even a Street Stock is what, 600 pounds lighter?

All depends on the sanction and rule book etc. Some street stocks will be around 3200 lbs or so. Imca stock cars are 2950. Heck even pavement late models are in the 2800-3000 range for weight rules. Dirt late models are 2300, imca type modifieds are usually 2450.

einy (Forum Supporter)
einy (Forum Supporter) Dork
4/4/21 2:28 p.m.
iceracer said:

Mud gets on the face shield instead of the windshield.

Yes, and when it does, the driver tears off a tear-off, so he/she can see again.   Something the driver cannot do to the windshield.  

GCrites80s
GCrites80s HalfDork
4/4/21 7:38 p.m.

How about roll offs for the windshields? Driver tugs a string or hits a button to get a clear view. Just like the onboard cameras have.

MotorsportsGordon
MotorsportsGordon Dork
4/4/21 11:08 p.m.
GCrites80s said:

How about roll offs for the windshields? Driver tugs a string or hits a button to get a clear view. Just like the onboard cameras have.

We have a local sprint car racer that uses that due to his one wrist no longer working from motorcycle road racing accident in the early 90s.

iceracer
iceracer MegaDork
4/5/21 12:17 p.m.

during the race dirt on the windshield did not seem to be a problem and they did have tear offs, problem was inside steaming up.  witness the wiper devices used during cautions and pit stops.

 they need some of those little rubber bladed defroster fans used back in ancient times.

GCrites80s
GCrites80s HalfDork
4/5/21 7:52 p.m.

Early in the race the dirt on the windshields was bad -- around the same time drivers were pulling off to get their Outerwears over their radiators changed. Kyle Busch's car was overheating on lap 2 because of that. Once it rubbered in and got a blue groove it was a lot cleaner.

I remember school buses having those external defog fans behind the windshield when I was a kid.

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