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Tom1200
Tom1200 Dork
4/23/20 1:58 p.m.

Finding that nirvana at autocross is tough; supercar, huge performance but big, wide and heavy. A-mod car, light, huge performance and quite possibly well beyond your skill set.

I know two people who literally earn the equivalent of $2500 an hour; they're smart enough to know the value of a dollar and would be more likely to (and have for racing) buy a Miata for something like autocross. Part of their issue is they have a limited amount of free time, as one would expect they work a lot of hours, so they are looking for the most seat time possible.  So it could be the folks that have the wherewithal to own a super car just aren't likely to attend autocross.

BlueInGreen - Jon (Forum Supporter)
BlueInGreen - Jon (Forum Supporter) UltraDork
4/23/20 2:14 p.m.

If you are serious about playing with cars and have the $$$ to do it with supercars, why autocross them when you could rent somewhere like Gingerman for a few afternoons each summer?

wspohn
wspohn Dork
4/23/20 2:37 p.m.

A lot of hot car drivers have been humbled on a slalom course.

I used to run an MGA and I'd beat a coupe of friends that each had an AMX. They made a lot more noise and smoke but handling wasn't their strong point and their hugely superior power didn't get a chance to shine.

What was even funnier was that another friend ran a dead stock NSU 1200 with pretty good tires on it. Not enough power to chirp a tire, but my friend was a very good driver and of course looked like he was going rather slowly without any drama, but was turning better times than the hot-shoes in the 911s. Used to drive them absolutely mad.

nderwater
nderwater UltimaDork
4/23/20 2:38 p.m.

In reply to BlueInGreen - Jon (Forum Supporter) :

I've driven a small number of supercars at autocross and track events.  I prefer autocross because pitching a car into a corner at low-to-moderate speeds reveals a lot about a car's handling characteristics (ex: the Ferrari 360 is sublime).  On the other hand, it's difficult and daunting to explore the traction circle with supercars at full on racetrack speeds because the limits on these cars are so high.  Also, organizers will often let you turn off traction control at an autocross event... good luck trying that at a racetrack.

Cactus
Cactus Reader
4/23/20 3:33 p.m.

In reply to nderwater :

Depends on the group with whom you run. BMWCCA might be sticklers (with restrictive insurance rules) but not every group is. I rarely run with groups that care. Once you're out of novice, go nuts, we will flag you if we catch you doing something wrong.

nderwater
nderwater UltimaDork
4/23/20 3:38 p.m.

Sorry for any confusion, I was referring to supercar rental event organizers who own their fleets, not 'drive what you brung' club events.

GCrites80s
GCrites80s Reader
4/24/20 9:54 p.m.

While a lot of 911s can be classified as "supercars", they are far more suited to autocross than most other supercars.

Cactus
Cactus Reader
4/24/20 11:07 p.m.

In reply to nderwater :

From what I understand in those events, most people opt for 3 laps or so, and by the time they get used to the car enough to mash the pedal, it's already over.

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