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Nick (LUCAS) Comstock
Nick (LUCAS) Comstock UltimaDork
3/17/16 11:02 p.m.

Automatic braking would have saved the life of a very nice 86 S10 I once owned when I dropped a jo...soda on the floor and the car in front of me stopped to make a turn about 20years ago.

dherr
dherr GRM+ Memberand New Reader
3/18/16 9:24 a.m.

I want to know what automatic braking does on the Washington DC beltway when everyone is driving 5 wide at 80+ MPH nose to tail like a NASCAR race. What happens when someone jumps in front of you and fills in the one or two car length gap you were leaving for a small margin of safety? Does the car try to "protect you" from what the radar and collision detection systems think is risky (which it is) and slam on the brakes when the car in front of you cuts right in front of you at speed? I can see a massive pileup as the cars with automatic braking systems are mixed in with regular cars.

ABS is a great tool for the average driver. But auto braking is in the same category as driverless cars, not interested!

Keith Tanner
Keith Tanner GRM+ Memberand MegaDork
3/18/16 9:49 a.m.

All of you who think this will trigger when you're running in a pack nose to tail: think closing speed.

rslifkin
rslifkin Reader
3/18/16 9:52 a.m.
Keith Tanner wrote: All of you who think this will trigger when you're running in a pack nose to tail: think closing speed.

Yeah, in a steady, tight pack it should be fine. But I think the current concern is when another car jumps in front of you at the same speed (so the distance in front of you suddenly drops and then remains constant again), what is it going to do?

Keith Tanner
Keith Tanner GRM+ Memberand MegaDork
3/18/16 9:58 a.m.

Probably explode and kill us all. Because it's impossible to tell this is happening.

Oh, no, wait, it is possible.

You guys know these systems are already out there, right?

ProDarwin
ProDarwin PowerDork
3/18/16 10:17 a.m.

The speculation in this thread is quite amusing. Every obscure situation you guys have thought of, the manufacturer has most likely thought of as well.

dherr
dherr GRM+ Memberand New Reader
3/18/16 2:07 p.m.

In reply to ProDarwin:

Call it speculation all you want, but I remember my 2004 Mini Cooper S that when there was snow on the road would spin the tires to move the car about 5 feet into an intersection and then abruptly cut all power to "help" you as the traction control kicked in. After a few times of having this happen, I had to learn to turn off traction control anytime it was wet on the roads if I wanted to be able to safely merge with traffic or cross an intersection. Pain in the butt.... so you don't think that a mandatory self braking system in all cars is not going to cause some issues with other cars, traffic and always be on? I doubt very much that this will have a defeat switch. And it will always trying to keep you safe, so if a car has traction control, automatic braking, lane avoidance, etc..... it will be driving the car, you will just be suggesting the path. Next step will be speed limiters and full blown self driving cars. Count me out!

WOW Really Paul?
WOW Really Paul? MegaDork
3/18/16 3:37 p.m.

I was under the impression this was on a voluntary basis....

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