79rex
79rex Reader
4/22/21 7:40 a.m.

Picture a basic FWD engine bay (1st gen neon).  Im looking at moving my battery to the passenger side firewall.  The header on my motor is on the back of the head.  How close is too close for a battery by the header?  Where im looking at putting it would be about a foot away from the header.  Im thinking thatll be too close.  But maybe not?  Add heat sheilding and it could survive ok?  The battery is going to be an oddesey PC680, if thatll make a diffrence.  I know heat and batteries, genrally dont get along.  But how much could I get away with here?

rslifkin
rslifkin UberDork
4/22/21 7:55 a.m.

Batteries don't like heat, so I'd either plan to put it somewhere cooler, or heat shield it and try to get some cooler air to the battery area (maybe just seal it off from the rest of the engine bay). 

gearheadE30
gearheadE30 Dork
4/22/21 8:00 a.m.

Yeah, batteries + heat are no bueno.

You could get some of that thermal tape to see how hot it actually gets there, or use a thermocouple in a multimeter to get an idea of how hot it gets. Some cars are pretty hot up along the hoodline, and others are not - kind of depends on how well the cowl is sealed and what kind of airflow there is.

Factory battery location is in the position you propose in my E30 for convertible and some other global models. No heat shielding on that.

1988RedT2
1988RedT2 MegaDork
4/22/21 8:32 a.m.
79rex said:

Picture a basic FWD engine bay (1st gen neon).  Im looking at moving my battery to the passenger side firewall.  The header on my motor is on the back of the head.  How close is too close for a battery by the header?  Where im looking at putting it would be about a foot away from the header.  Im thinking thatll be too close.  But maybe not?  Add heat sheilding and it could survive ok?  The battery is going to be an oddesey PC680, if thatll make a diffrence.  I know heat and batteries, genrally dont get along.  But how much could I get away with here?

Daily driver?  Or track toy/weekend car?  That would probably decide it for me.

The DD I'd keep the stock location.  The toy I'd try anything.  Heat shielding sounds like a great idea, as does monitoring the actual temperature.

Dusterbd13-michael (Forum Supporter)
Dusterbd13-michael (Forum Supporter) MegaDork
4/22/21 8:36 a.m.

Umm...

 

Bumper mounted like fattirebicycles used to do with a pdc relocate bracket?

79rex
79rex Reader
4/22/21 9:41 a.m.
1988RedT2 said:
 

 

Daily driver?  Or track toy/weekend car?  That would probably decide it for me.

The DD I'd keep the stock location.  The toy I'd try anything.  Heat shielding sounds like a great idea, as does monitoring the actual temperature.

 

not a daily, its an interiorless toy that seems weekend track time, and some street time.  

79rex
79rex Reader
4/22/21 9:43 a.m.

In reply to Dusterbd13-michael (Forum Supporter) :

The bumper idea is one ive thought about.  but Ive always been kinda concerned with front impact and having a battery in the front corner like that.  Perhaps nothing to be worried about at all maybe?

Dusterbd13-michael (Forum Supporter)
Dusterbd13-michael (Forum Supporter) MegaDork
4/22/21 9:53 a.m.

In reply to 79rex :

Having done a rotisserie restoration on my Neon, there is really no difference in safety between the Factory location in the bumper mount in my mind. Any hit hard enough to get to the one is going to do in the other as well.

ross2004
ross2004 Reader
4/22/21 9:56 a.m.

I don't know what the engine bay totally looks like, but do you have room down low along the passenger side frame rail?

John Welsh
John Welsh Mod Squad
4/22/21 10:01 a.m.

In reply to 79rex :

If interior-less then how about passenger footwell, inside?  Generally, just the other side of the passenger side fire wall.  Use some good grommets and heavy coated cable for running lines through the firewall.  

79rex
79rex Reader
4/22/21 10:12 a.m.

In reply to Dusterbd13-michael (Forum Supporter) :

not having fender liners and potentially throwing rain/road grime in its direction was another thought that ran through my head

Pete. (l33t FS)
Pete. (l33t FS) GRM+ Memberand MegaDork
4/22/21 10:58 a.m.

The battery in my RX-7 is mounted in the hottest part of the interior - on the right side at the kickup where all the exhaust heat goes.  I have had rubberized gloves melt to the floor.

Battery is more damaged by not keeping a battery tender on it when I am not driving than by the heat.

I do have it in a marine box, which probably helps with the heat issue.

frenchyd
frenchyd UltimaDork
4/22/21 11:09 a.m.

In reply to 79rex :

Look at Jaguar.  They put a fan on their battery.  

EvanB
EvanB GRM+ Memberand MegaDork
4/22/21 1:03 p.m.

Can't be worse than a Saab C900 turbo.

You'll need to log in to post.

Our Preferred Partners
tOAh9MzU5lp4AUGUvEruH9bluzm1F6tglNXeLcOlqGSq7sUJKC9A8AqrkDKs1Kgc