NOHOME
NOHOME Dork
10/29/13 11:30 a.m.

Have a line on a set of these.

Any caveats knowing they are going on a Miata suspension? Bolt pattern is good.

Is mounting hardware an issue or stupid $$$$?

Keith Tanner
Keith Tanner GRM+ Memberand MegaDork
10/29/13 11:37 a.m.

Offset? Hub bore? The answers to these questions should be "between +45 and +30" and "54.1mm or larger".

I don't know anything about the wheels, but mounting hardware should be easy. Just find out what they need - spherical or conical nuts - and use the correct stuff. If it's conical, then Miata lug nuts should work fine.

aussiesmg
aussiesmg MegaDork
10/29/13 11:42 a.m.

Rx2 is 4x110 Miata is 4x100

NOHOME
NOHOME Dork
10/29/13 11:54 a.m.
aussiesmg wrote: Rx2 is 4x110 Miata is 4x100

That is most interesting.

From the add:

"Rare 4x100, 16x7"

Hate to drive 1.5 hours each way to find out it wont work. I do have a hub I can take with me to make sure!

Unless I am way out of date, BBS used to make some nice wheels. The numbers cast into the wheels dont man much to me, any ideas?

http://i.ebayimg.com/00/s/NzUwWDEwMDA=/$T2eC16ZHJHEFFmLtsO0TBRtnOJj3bw~~48_20.JPG

Swank Force One
Swank Force One MegaDork
10/29/13 11:56 a.m.

Heh, Aussie was referring to the Mazda RX2.

I don't know if i'd bother with driving 3 hours round trip to pick these up unless they were a crazy deal.

16x7 is a kindof ehhhhhhhhhhh size for a Miata.

Unless.... are these 2 piece or 3 piece? You could rebarrel them to a 16x9 or x10 and i'd buy them from you.

Keith Tanner
Keith Tanner GRM+ Memberand MegaDork
10/29/13 11:56 a.m.

Aussie, are you talking about the Mazda RX2 or the BBS RX2 (or RX-II)? Not the same I see pictures of RX-II wheels on VW Golfs, which would imply that a 4x100 was available.

aussiesmg
aussiesmg MegaDork
10/29/13 12:04 p.m.

Yeah I misunderstood that the wheel is the RxII, My bad

NOHOME
NOHOME Dork
10/29/13 12:05 p.m.
Swank Force One wrote: Heh, Aussie was referring to the Mazda RX2. I don't know if i'd bother with driving 3 hours round trip to pick these up unless they were a crazy deal. 16x7 is a kindof ehhhhhhhhhhh size for a Miata. Unless.... are these 2 piece or 3 piece? You could rebarrel them to a 16x9 or x10 and i'd buy them from you.

16" is admittedly kind of a weird size. But I am actually putting them on a Volvo with a Miata suspension and I cant go to wild on the width. I placed a set of 17's from the FRS in the wheelwell and it looked too big for my taste since I am not a big fan of low profile classic car look.

Figuring on a 205 55 16 to keep things under the fenders.

These are $450 for the set, and while not what some call a smoking deal, keep in mind that tire rack now charges me over $200 to get wheels shipped to my door.

Swank Force One
Swank Force One MegaDork
10/29/13 12:09 p.m.

Ah hah. I forgot what the situation was. I approve, if it matters.

Keith Tanner
Keith Tanner GRM+ Memberand MegaDork
10/29/13 12:10 p.m.

ET 42 refers to the offset. Dunno what the 211 is, might be an internal part number.

Swank Force One
Swank Force One MegaDork
10/29/13 12:15 p.m.

Now that i see pictures.... i bet it refers to the 1-piece variant somehow.

DeadSkunk
DeadSkunk SuperDork
10/29/13 2:05 p.m.

16" will work fine on your Miata/Volvo. Miatas came stock with 16s or 17s at times, so don't worry. Real BBS wheels for that kind of money, in Canada, would be a decent price.

NOHOME
NOHOME Dork
10/29/13 2:22 p.m.
DeadSkunk wrote: Real BBS wheels for that kind of money, in Canada, would be a decent price.

I hear you! Not sure how you determine if they are real or not! Any ideas?

LuxInterior
LuxInterior New Reader
10/29/13 2:23 p.m.

I had a set of these on my '96 R package Miata ( they came with the car). They are purty darned heavy. The interwebz say this wheel weighs in at 19.5 lbs for a 16 x 7

Ian F
Ian F UltimaDork
10/29/13 2:35 p.m.

Those look like VW wheels. The real question is the hub center. Ask the seller to measure it to see if it's the same or larger than a Miata.

19.5 lbs doesn't surprise me. My Mk IV RX-II's aren't light either.

NOHOME
NOHOME Dork
10/29/13 2:41 p.m.
Ian F wrote: Those look like VW wheels. The real question is the hub center. Ask the seller to measure it to see if it's the same or larger than a Miata. 19.5 lbs doesn't surprise me. My Mk IV RX-II's aren't light either.

I am taking a hub with me!

What is particular to VW wheels? Seller says they have been on a few cars, road rash may or may not kill this deal when I arrive.

They are not for a race car, so really extreme low weight is not an issue, but I would prefer not o buy something passed off as BBS when they are not. Seller might not even know!

LuxInterior
LuxInterior New Reader
10/29/13 2:52 p.m.

I wouldn't worry too much about them being fake BBS'.

codrus
codrus GRM+ Memberand HalfDork
10/29/13 4:14 p.m.
NOHOME wrote: They are not for a race car, so really extreme low weight is not an issue

Arguably, low unsprung weight is more relevant to ride/grip in bumpy street use than it is on relatively smooth race tracks.

I don't think I'd put 20 pound wheels on my Miata, not when I could have 11.5 pound 15x7 6ULs for only a couple hundred bucks more, and have better tire availability in that size too.

Ian F
Ian F UltimaDork
10/29/13 6:19 p.m.

In reply to codrus:

Kinda... but if the wheels are for his 1800ES project, then 205/55-16 tires will fill the wheel wells better. 225/50-16 will fit as well, although they are a bit stretched on a 7" wheel, but I've done it. (a VW Mk IV -which I own- uses the same tire size range as the 195/65-15 often used on 1800's these days)

The offset is what makes me think these are meant for a VW Mk III. A Miata is about 10mm less. You might run into caliper clearance issues. Take a full hub/spindle/rotor/caliper with you if you can. The other option would be to run a spacer, which could also possibly solve hub center differences as well.

NOHOME
NOHOME Dork
10/29/13 8:00 p.m.

They are in the shop and they are nice! I think they were a good deal.

I have not weight these guys and most likely wont ever do so, but they sure don't feel heavy to me.

They fit over the Miata hub/disc/caliper.

I would rather be a bit high on the offset number since the Miata thread is 4 inches wider than the Volvo; not that the Volvo was the poster child for Hella Flush, but still, I really don't want to flare the fenders on this thing.

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