Dusterbd13-michael
Dusterbd13-michael MegaDork
10/14/21 11:48 a.m.

Say i wanted to cram the widest 200tw tire i can on a car. But the overall height of the tire HAS to be 26-28 high. 

What wheel diameter would you be looking at? And tire size?

¯\_(ツ)_/¯
¯\_(ツ)_/¯ PowerDork
10/14/21 11:52 a.m.

I challenge somebody to find wider in 200TW than the 355/30ZR19 V720.  I'm still looking though.

Sonic
Sonic UberDork
10/14/21 11:57 a.m.

17 only goes up to 255 reliably these days, you need 18-19 for more width than that

Dusterbd13-michael
Dusterbd13-michael MegaDork
10/14/21 12:01 p.m.
¯\_(ツ)_/¯ said:

I challenge somebody to find wider in 200TW than the 355/30ZR19 V720.  I'm still looking though.

My god!!! Thats berkeleying HUGE (not what she said to me)

And the price surprise

Dusterbd13-michael
Dusterbd13-michael MegaDork
10/14/21 12:02 p.m.

Pretty much what im trying to do is make a cam eligible nascar clone on a challenge budget. So, nascar slicks are 27x10x15. 

¯\_(ツ)_/¯
¯\_(ツ)_/¯ PowerDork
10/14/21 12:05 p.m.

In reply to Dusterbd13-michael :

Tires are budget exempt, don't be a wuss!

Off to look for cheap 19x13 wheels I guess.

¯\_(ツ)_/¯
¯\_(ツ)_/¯ PowerDork
10/14/21 12:08 p.m.

Now that I know NASCAR clone is the spec, steelies?  You could probably get an entire actual NASCAR wheel and weld that into a 19" steel wheel barrel.

Dusterbd13-michael
Dusterbd13-michael MegaDork
10/14/21 12:24 p.m.

I am completely indifferent to wheel design. As long as it's not the teddy bears or that one that looks like a wheel made of dong. NASCAR spec is the best way I'm able to describe what I'm going after at the moment. And that's what the chassis is currently set up for as far as wheel and tire package. However Circle Tracks links are not readable nor legal for the classes I want to run it

¯\_(ツ)_/¯
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10/14/21 12:28 p.m.

In reply to Dusterbd13-michael :

In that case I think this would put you on the hunt for the cheapest C6 Corvette wheels you can get your hands on, that's probably the most common in that size range.

Dusterbd13-michael
Dusterbd13-michael MegaDork
10/14/21 1:29 p.m.

So, before i get completely hung up on hunting 19s just to run those ridiculous 355s, are there other options i should strongly consider? Car will be right at 3k lbs, and flares are already in the plans. 

I don't have to go 355. But i think 275 would be the absolute minimum width that would look right flared. If i was to try to keep it all under fender, 255 would be max.

Also, im looking at replacement costs long term. The goal for the car is autocross, track, hillclimbs, occasional street driving, and being flat towed to events.

wvumtnbkr
wvumtnbkr GRM+ Memberand PowerDork
10/14/21 1:48 p.m.

There are 275 17 available.

 

I know the NASCAR rain tire was dot approved from a few years ago.  Some people ran them in champcar.

 

Hoosier rain tires are dot approved and come in some interesting sizes.

 

Maxxis is probably going to come out with a 275 40 15 within the next year.

Pete. (l33t FS)
Pete. (l33t FS) GRM+ Memberand MegaDork
10/14/21 7:57 p.m.

In reply to wvumtnbkr :

IIRC 275/40-15 is around 24".  That's roughly the size tire that Group B Audis used on tarmac.

Dusterbd13-michael
Dusterbd13-michael MegaDork
10/14/21 8:56 p.m.

Pretty much all the 15s these days are miata, race, or dd/junk. The stuff in the sizes i want is mostly junk (for this application).

Hence the question. Miata is generally 22-24 tall, which causes serious ground clearance, gearing, and cosmetic issues. So those are out. 

Id love to find some zero offset 17/18/19 wheels with some 295+ rubber if i go flared to make the most of them

 

What im really wondering, though, is what wheel diameter has the best range of sizes for muly needs, and will continue to be supported for a while? 16s are dead, 17s seem to be getting there? 

26-28 tall overall (would prefer closer to 27-28) by wide enough for a 3k lb car to stick like syphilis. And look beefy.

 

dps214
dps214 Dork
10/14/21 8:57 p.m.
Dusterbd13-michael said:

So, before i get completely hung up on hunting 19s just to run those ridiculous 355s, are there other options i should strongly consider? Car will be right at 3k lbs, and flares are already in the plans. 

I don't have to go 355. But i think 275 would be the absolute minimum width that would look right flared. If i was to try to keep it all under fender, 255 would be max.

Also, im looking at replacement costs long term. The goal for the car is autocross, track, hillclimbs, occasional street driving, and being flat towed to events.

335/18s are 25.9" OD, anything narrower is going to be smaller diameter. If you really need >26" OD then 19s are your only real option. V720s are outdated at this point and weren't great when they were new, I'd go with either falkens in 305 or 315, the goodyear SC3 in 305 or 325, or the rivals in 305/19 which are uncharacteristically cheap.

Edit: I didn't notice the tire linked was the V720 ACR, not the normal V720. The ACRs are fast but also aren't really 200TWs and are illegal for pretty much any competition event/class that requires 200TW at this point.

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