MadScientistMatt
MadScientistMatt SuperDork
11/21/12 11:46 a.m.

It looks like I may need a new flywheel for my '97 328. I noticed that the '95 and earlier flywheels are about 6 lbs lighter and a bit cheaper. I already have a '97 clutch (hadn't planned on replacing the flywheel). Will I be able to swap to the earlier flywheel without any trouble, or are the parts incompatible?

yamaha
yamaha Dork
11/21/12 12:36 p.m.

I'm drawing a blank here, but I'm assuming bmw went to dual mass flywheels at some point?

MadScientistMatt
MadScientistMatt SuperDork
11/21/12 2:08 p.m.

Yes, both appear to be dual mass from what I've seen.

mad_machine
mad_machine GRM+ Memberand MegaDork
11/21/12 3:01 p.m.

not sure on the clutch.. but yes, as far as I know.. all E36s had that super heavy dual mass flywheel

Joe Gearin
Joe Gearin Associate Publisher
11/21/12 3:06 p.m.

I know my 97 E36 M3 had a dual mass flywheel. Switching to a lighter unit made the car feel much more eager. I do have a bit of minor "chatter" at idle, and it isn't quite as easy to get moving from a dead stop, but once you acclimate, the change was absolutely worth it!

http://grassrootsmotorsports.com/project-cars/1997-bmw-m3/fresh-friction/

HappyAndy
HappyAndy Dork
11/21/12 4:23 p.m.

Wow! I just read up on what a dual mass flywheel is. Talk about a Rube Goldberg contraption . I guess that Germans don't belive in harmonic balancers. It sounds like a redonkulously complicated way accomplish the same basic thing.

dj06482
dj06482 GRM+ Memberand Dork
11/21/12 4:34 p.m.

And if you think the dual-mass flywheel is bad, check out the CDV (clutch delay valve). It makes the car easier to drive for ham-fisted drivers, at the expense of those who can actually drive a manual. Most infuriating device in the world!

02Pilot
02Pilot HalfDork
11/21/12 5:20 p.m.
dj06482 wrote: And if you think the dual-mass flywheel is bad, check out the CDV (clutch delay valve). It makes the car easier to drive for ham-fisted drivers, at the expense of those who can actually drive a manual. Most infuriating device in the world!

But thankfully easily removed.

motomoron
motomoron Dork
11/21/12 6:29 p.m.

My experience as well on my '98 M3 -

I went with a Bimmerworld / JB Racing aluminum flywheel w/ a Clutchmasters stage 1 organic/sprung clutch.

Stock flywheel 25# - AL flywheel 10#.

Do this and underdrive pulleys and the car feels totally different. Crazy pull out of slow corners.

yamaha
yamaha Dork
11/21/12 11:15 p.m.

I'm wanting to say the one the PO put in the ti was a 7-8lb aluminum......chatters like a mofo and sounds like a semi with the jake on while engine braking. Woke the little 1.8 up though.

mad_machine
mad_machine GRM+ Memberand MegaDork
11/22/12 9:30 a.m.

I wanted to do something similar to my Ti, Yamaha.. sadly, that will not be the case until I get another one

MadScientistMatt
MadScientistMatt SuperDork
11/24/12 4:30 p.m.

Found the answer - earlier E36s used a smaller diameter clutch. Putting in a new Sachs flywheel today.

wjones
wjones New Reader
11/24/12 9:26 p.m.
HappyAndy wrote: Wow! I just read up on what a dual mass flywheel is. Talk about a Rube Goldberg contraption . I guess that Germans don't belive in harmonic balancers. It sounds like a redonkulously complicated way accomplish the same basic thing.

There is a balancer on the front of the crank.

It take a lot of stones to insult a BMW inline 6 this way.

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