There are only a couple City's that could have screwed this up more. And in the end I bet the tax payer will end up footing the bill for all those people that paid for tickets and are trying to get a refund.
On the other hand Herb Chambers is no one you want to have come after you. I hope he brings down the full force of his empire on the promoters. Sounds like he is really pissed off.
When IndyCar fell apart, some said its failure just added to Boston’s painful reputation as the city of “no.” Yes, the city probably is too slow to embrace new ideas. But the IndyCar episode may end up looking more like a garden-variety ripoff to those ticket holders awaiting their money back. It’s hard to think of anything less novel than that.
I wonder if you could start a twitter frenzy with a title like. "IndyCar Rips off Ticket Holders in Boston". Ya I know it is not really IndyCar's fault but in the end it is there name on the event. Maybe there should be a bit more accountability in the system. Seems the system currently is broken.
Just think of all the IndyCar fans that wanted to see the race and now will most likely get screwed. You think they are going to still be IndyCar fans?
Gary
Dork
6/21/16 2:07 p.m.
A few years ago, before they started promoting the Boston race, there had been discussion of an IndyCar race through the streets of downtown Providence. Like the city of Boston, RI is known as the state of "no" whenever there's a hint of taxpayers funding an event for somebody else's benefit (for good reason). So that idea never got any traction. The Boston issue will probably hurt fans' perception of IndyCar.
This is why you put these things on Amex. Call them, explain, bam, charges reversed.
Also, Boston (and MA in general) has a reputation for corruption and bribery. I bet some of the missing money fell down those holes.
Been thinking about this more and I think Indy Car has some accountability. People would not purchase tickets for Joe Blows car race but Indy Car lent there name to the event and were going to benefit from it. They should not be able to just walk away with no accountability to the fans that purchased tickets to a IndyCar race.
Am I out to lunch on this?
It should be a lesson to all organisations that are having a promoter set up events for them. I hate to see IndyCar get hit with a big hammer but if this is pursued under MGL 93a they would be forced to pay triple damages and all legal fees. This is a law specific to Massachusetts to protect individuals from deceptive practices of businesses.
I have used it in the past and the Ag`s office takes it very seriously.
stroker
SuperDork
6/21/16 9:21 p.m.
Gary wrote:
The Boston issue will probably hurt fans' perception of IndyCar.
You mean more than Tony George blowing it up 20 years ago?
dean1484 wrote:
Been thinking about this more and I think Indy Car has some accountability. People would not purchase tickets for Joe Blows car race but Indy Car lent there name to the event and were going to benefit from it. They should not be able to just walk away with no accountability to the fans that purchased tickets to a IndyCar race.
Am I out to lunch on this?
Regardless of accountability, it's in Indy Car's best interest that the fans walk away happy. Refunding the ticket money out of the Indy Car bank account might be a good investment. Says the guy who doesn't know what the numbers are
I always thought Revere was quite happy and cheerful.
NOHOME wrote:
What's an "Indy Car"?
it's those things that look like rental karts that they race on tv that one time at the end of May.
If IndyCar can't afford to refund the tickets (or isn't legally the responsible party), maybe they should offer these folks free admission to the Pocono or Watkins Glen race, with wristbands for free food in a big hospitality tent. Maybe 2000 people would actually show up - the hardcore race fans that IndyCar can't afford to lose - and for $25K in burgers and soda pop, IndyCar could preserve some good will.
Trackmouse wrote:
You know, I seem to remember a thread where I dissed the awful town of Boston and received hell for it. Well, suck it, haters. And you know what else, Paul Revere was gay.
This again??? Are you berking kidding??? You were crapping on a population that was attacked by terrorists, and how the city responded at that time. As someone who was actually in the city when that was going on, I still take offense to that.
ANYWAY....
I know a few people (and some of them are GRM'ers) that bought tickets to this. I was thinking of attending myself, but wanted to wait closer to the event to see what happened. Pretty messed up that they can't pony up the refund money.
Again, if they tried doing this 10 years ago, before they had developed the Seaport District, the race would have happened. Back then, there were not as many businesses or people inhabiting the area, and it would have been cool seeing race cars flying around what was once a mainly industrial area.
Trackmouse wrote:
You know, I seem to remember a thread where I dissed the awful town of Boston and received hell for it. Well, suck it, haters. And you know what else, Paul Revere was gay.
I'm not sure if you're just stirring the pot, or really that big of a douchenozzle? Either way I don't see how this pertains to the article about race fans getting hosed. Regardless of where it happened, or your views of a town (city) it's pretty crappy to see people get fleeced in my opinion.
Flynlow wrote:
This is why you put these things on Amex. Call them, explain, bam, charges reversed.
Any major credit card will do that for you, I've had Visa refund several things and go after British companies of a few occasions (BTW The term 'Customer Service' is an oxymoron in England). I hate Am-Ex for other reasons though.
Keith Tanner wrote:
Regardless of accountability, it's in Indy Car's best interest that the fans walk away happy. Refunding the ticket money out of the Indy Car bank account might be a good investment. Says the guy who doesn't know what the numbers are
The issue there is it isn't Indy car that sells the tickets. The track pays a sanctioning fee to host the race then sells tickets, which is why Indy car probably isn't directly to blame for the cluster berkeley in the first place.
No matter, it's another PR disaster for Indy car and the organization should do every thing it can to make it right even if it costs them $$'s. Better to loose a few more $'s than the three of us remaining fans
I hope whoever is actually responsible gets sued out of existence. Be it the promoter, Indy car, the city or whoever. I don't know the specifics, but if the city had given permission then pulled it, they are probably at least partially liable here.
P.S. No idea what the pissing match on here about Boston itself is, but the few times I've been there I've loved it. Great place, I hope those of you who live there have pride in it.
Trackmouse wrote:
You know, I seem to remember a thread where I dissed the awful town of Boston and received hell for it. Well, suck it, haters. And you know what else, Paul Revere was gay.
Step back from the computer and take a couple deep breaths. It is an internet argument, no one wins.
SilverFleet wrote:
As someone who was actually in the city when that was going on
Hay I did not know you were local. Dam!!! We should do a NE GRM gathering some time. Maybe at the Lars Anderson (sp) or something.
SilverFleet wrote:
Again, if they tried doing this 10 years ago, before they had developed the Seaport District, the race would have happened. Back then, there were not as many businesses or people inhabiting the area, and it would have been cool seeing race cars flying around what was once a mainly industrial area.
We would have lost half the field in some of the potholes that were there before all the development. A Stage Rally would have been a better choice
In reply to dean1484:
The rotary down by Harpoon is a nice throwback to the good old days - last time I was down there it was about 80% steel plates, 20% gaping holes.