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egoman
egoman New Reader
10/28/12 7:33 p.m.

OK now I have your attention . If anyone here seen the last car I built you will figure out what I am up to pretty quickly. Anyways can you guys tell me what commonly available front wheel drive car had the most power and a standard transmission. I am looking at another mid engine experimental car.

92CelicaHalfTrac
92CelicaHalfTrac MegaDork
10/28/12 7:35 p.m.

I'm guessing an Acura TL/CL.

Assuming, that is, you mean most power stock.

Knurled
Knurled GRM+ Memberand SuperDork
10/28/12 7:38 p.m.

Standard transmission, you'd probably be looking at either late model Maximas or 3,8l Mitsubishis for transverse, or super-rare 3.7l Audi A8s for longitudinal, which used the same basic transmission as Boxsters and 968s and may not have even been available on this side of the pond with manual transmission. (The 3.7 was only available with FWD, and FWD A8s were only sold here for a year or two)

sachilles
sachilles SuperDork
10/28/12 7:40 p.m.

Vw 1.8t? Any Subie motor. Sho

N Sperlo
N Sperlo PowerDork
10/28/12 7:42 p.m.

So shouldn't you be looking for the strongest transmission of any vehicle in which the company has decided to plant the engine at 180 degrees? That should open up your options quite a bit being that you would be looking for any 180 degree FWD, AWD, or Mid/Rear engine's companion transmission.

egoman
egoman New Reader
10/28/12 7:47 p.m.

Whats a 180 degree engine placement? wouldnt that be backwards? I am assuming that the strongest front wheel drive car will have a robust transmission.

Knurled
Knurled GRM+ Memberand SuperDork
10/28/12 7:50 p.m.

Most high powered FWD cars have automatics. So you're pretty much limited to the 250-280hp that the 6-speed Maximas made.

Not a bad drivetrain in the least, mind you. The unfortunate part about it was that it was wrapped in a largish Nissan.

N Sperlo
N Sperlo PowerDork
10/28/12 7:50 p.m.

90 degrees = vertical (Mutdang)

180 degrees = horizontal (Deathscort)

Maybe not offical, but thats what I call it. 0 degree sounds weird.

JohnRW1621
JohnRW1621 PowerDork
10/28/12 7:53 p.m.

500cid Cadillac Eldorado?
455cid Olds Tornado?

No so much the biggest HP but the biggest displacement.

RexSeven
RexSeven UltraDork
10/28/12 7:57 p.m.

Mazdaspeed3? Saab 9-3 V-6?

JtspellS
JtspellS HalfDork
10/28/12 7:57 p.m.

Mazdaspeed 3?

mndsm
mndsm PowerDork
10/28/12 8:02 p.m.

Mazdaspeed3 for sure. Good power- super strong trans.

petegossett
petegossett GRM+ Memberand UltraDork
10/28/12 8:15 p.m.

Wouldn't SRT-4 be up there in the ranks? Those seem to have about bottomed out on the depreciation curve too.

92CelicaHalfTrac
92CelicaHalfTrac MegaDork
10/28/12 8:22 p.m.

It is my firm belief that the strongest fwd manual trans ever made is the Toyota E153.

As a plus, it came attached to the 2.0 turbo 3sgte or a good v6.

I like the Mazdaspeed3 idea.

turboswede
turboswede GRM+ Memberand PowerDork
10/28/12 8:22 p.m.

05+ SRT-4 with factory limited slip. 400hp with a computer and injector swap.

egoman
egoman New Reader
10/28/12 8:29 p.m.
92CelicaHalfTrac wrote: It is my firm belief that the strongest fwd manual trans ever made is the Toyota E153. As a plus, it came attached to the 2.0 turbo 3sgte or a good v6. I like the Mazdaspeed3 idea.

What cars was it in? Lets assume that I dont speak import.

92CelicaHalfTrac
92CelicaHalfTrac MegaDork
10/28/12 8:58 p.m.
egoman wrote:
92CelicaHalfTrac wrote: It is my firm belief that the strongest fwd manual trans ever made is the Toyota E153. As a plus, it came attached to the 2.0 turbo 3sgte or a good v6. I like the Mazdaspeed3 idea.
What cars was it in? Lets assume that I dont speak import.

Mr2 turbo with the 2.0 turbo. V6 manual camrys and solaras with the v6.

mndsm
mndsm PowerDork
10/28/12 9:04 p.m.
turboswede wrote: 05+ SRT-4 with factory limited slip. 400hp with a computer and injector swap.

From what I've seen, the trannies are made of glass- though they do make power.

92CelicaHalfTrac
92CelicaHalfTrac MegaDork
10/28/12 9:40 p.m.

And you aren't making a real 400hp with the stock turbo either.

GameboyRMH
GameboyRMH GRM+ Memberand PowerDork
10/28/12 10:02 p.m.

Camry V6? Good powertrain, Lotus approves.

turboswede
turboswede GRM+ Memberand PowerDork
10/28/12 10:38 p.m.
mndsm wrote:
turboswede wrote: 05+ SRT-4 with factory limited slip. 400hp with a computer and injector swap.
From what I've seen, the trannies are made of glass- though they do make power.

Odd, considering they are built for use behind turbo diesel motors in caravans. Much like Subaru transaxles, the owners have a lot to do with longevity.

I've not blown up an A-525 in any of 8 or so turbo L-bodies that have cycled through our family. Others blew them up on the test drive from the dealership.

I also forgot to mention the turbo upgrade. I think the stock turbo runs out around what, 300hp?

corytate
corytate Dork
10/28/12 10:48 p.m.

I'm gonna have to jump on the 'yota bandwagon here too.
The speed 3 is up there, and very very strong, but it's cost prohibitive compared to a 2gr or a 3gte.
And +1 on srt4 trans being made of glass.
They die.
alot.

mtn
mtn PowerDork
10/29/12 12:05 a.m.

SAAB 9-5 Aero?

bravenrace
bravenrace PowerDork
10/29/12 5:55 a.m.

In reply to egoman:

I'm not sure if it's the highest, but the 3rd gen Acura TL-S had 280hp with a manual trans. And I could be wrong, but I think the Accord used the same manual trans.

Adrian_Thompson
Adrian_Thompson SuperDork
10/29/12 8:57 a.m.

Rusted out Saab 900 SRT 4 WRX/STi etc

Hard to argue with magic spinning snails of goodness.

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