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Cayman S.. end of discussion. Mid-engined FTW
Define "Used"
How much are we gonna be allowed to spend and what kind of miles are we looking to accept?
If I can get a used Cayman with 300 miles for 30k, I am all over it.
If I have to buy a 5 year old car with 90k on it and no warranty to use as the DD and pay 30k, No Sir, I don't like it at all.
Tricky to compare apples to oranges, hence the expression...
I'm guessing the OP was assuming equal buy in for each. So take the cost of a new BRZ and see what that could get you for a used Cayman or a 1-series or a 3-series.
Even used Caymans seem to cost more than new frisbees.
Yeah, I don't think I'd want any $25K Cayman right now. The cheapest I found local to me was a high-mileage base-model for $30K. $25K is likely to be accident damage at this point in the depreciation curve.
Now, $25K Boxster on the other hand...
BMW 135i
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In reply to Sky_Render:
http://portland.craigslist.org/mlt/ctd/3216284248.html
Wow, I didn't know they got down that low already! 
Chris Harris did a comparison akin to what you're asking for:
Although he is using the british pound
used C6?
Bobzilla wrote: used C6?
This!! I've seen them for as low as $25k and if you can deal with the interior (which I absolutely can, they're perfectly comfy just not as pretty as a BMW might be, and every bit as pretty as the Cayman might be according to GRM) you're going to spank all the others in performance. Probably also reliability and maintenance costs, too.
dculberson wrote:Bobzilla wrote: used C6?This!! I've seen them for as low as $25k and if you can deal with the interior (which I absolutely can, they're perfectly comfy just not as pretty as a BMW might be, and every bit as pretty as the Cayman might be according to GRM) you're going to spank all the others in performance. Probably also reliability and maintenance costs, too.
Add in the mileage ratings of the frisbee twins and you're really not missing much there either!
ask me again in the future.........
right now the FR-S is new and some of the performance bolt ons don't work - or so says Moto who owns the 2nd FR-S sold in the US!
in a few years... when all are in the $12k-$15k range. I'll be happy to take a stab
I'll second a used C6 for dollars-for-performance, but you didn't say what you want this car for. DD? Competition car? Track day toy?
From what the OP mentioned, I'd say 135 >brz>cayman......throw the c6 into the front of that equation if it would be considered.
The NSX is in that price range as well. And those come with Honda reliability.
e_pie wrote: The NSX is in that price range as well. And those come with Honda reliability.
But not Honda replacement parts prices. 
mad_machine wrote: Cayman S.. end of discussion. Mid-engined FTW
Even though I own a Cayman S (best car I've ever driven), I'm not going to say this exactly. It really depends on what you want.
If you don't need to buy a new car, the Cayman can be an outstanding value. Almost no one buys a Porsche as their primary vehicle and the majority of the five year old cars out there have less than 20k miles on them. They can be bought for 50% of their original value (I have this on fairly good authority) and they are not like to depreciate much over the next two years of ownership.
If you really want a new BMW, buy a new BMW, but I think the 3 series is probably a better choice.
If you want a new car, you want to have fun, and you want a car that will be easy to sell in a few years for a higher percentage of your purchase price, get the BRZ/FRS. Percentage wise, it won't depreciate as quickly as the BMW would.
Bobzilla wrote:dculberson wrote:Add in the mileage ratings of the frisbee twins and you're really not missing much there either!Bobzilla wrote: used C6?This!! I've seen them for as low as $25k and if you can deal with the interior (which I absolutely can, they're perfectly comfy just not as pretty as a BMW might be, and every bit as pretty as the Cayman might be according to GRM) you're going to spank all the others in performance. Probably also reliability and maintenance costs, too.
Used GTO is even cheaper, has 4 real seats, has a better interior, etc, etc. Can't go wrong with either (GM) one though! 
Javelin wrote:Bobzilla wrote:Used GTO is even cheaper, has 4 real seats, has a better interior, etc, etc. Can't go wrong with either (GM) one though!dculberson wrote:Add in the mileage ratings of the frisbee twins and you're really not missing much there either!Bobzilla wrote: used C6?This!! I've seen them for as low as $25k and if you can deal with the interior (which I absolutely can, they're perfectly comfy just not as pretty as a BMW might be, and every bit as pretty as the Cayman might be according to GRM) you're going to spank all the others in performance. Probably also reliability and maintenance costs, too.
<-- Permanent DINKS. We hae no need for a rear seat.
In reply to Bobzilla:
Just in case the OP did need them. It's my standard answer to "what car?". I say 2 seats or 4, then say Vette or GTO. G8 if they need 5. 
C5 Z06 versus C6 base is a much tougher choice. Well, until the LS3 C6's get down into that same price bracket, then I think those might win...
I'd rather have a GTO, or a G8, than a Corvette.
Woody wrote: I'd rather have a GTO, or a G8, than a Corvette.
I haven't driven a GTO or G8, but have driven a c6 vette and highly doubt the G8 or GTO could convert me. I am willing to be convinced though - someone let me drive their GTO or G8!
Woody wrote:mad_machine wrote: Cayman S.. end of discussion. Mid-engined FTWEven though I own a Cayman S (best car I've ever driven), I'm not going to say this exactly. It really depends on what you want. If you don't need to buy a *new* car, the Cayman can be an outstanding value. Almost no one buys a Porsche as their primary vehicle and the majority of the five year old cars out there have less than 20k miles on them. They can be bought for 50% of their original value (I have this on fairly good authority) and they are not like to depreciate much over the next two years of ownership.
Where are you finding these 20k mile $27,000 Caymans?
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