Bugatti Veyron. At Copart

Runs and drives. 3.5 million dollars new. Bid now at $345,000

2019 Chiron right? Apparently arson target

https://www.copart.com/lot/57883711/2019-bugatti-chiron-fl-west-palm-beach

The fact that, what appears to be manageable damage is enough to total a $3.5m vehicle says run, run away fast and don't look back.  If you've got the $$ buy it and sit on it for 20 years until people are restoring early ones with massive miles on, you know like 200 miles a year for 20 years, and sell unobtanium parts to them for dollars on the pennies.

Even worse than "total," it has a "certificate of destruction" issued which as far as I know is a national death sentence for a car. It's a track toy, museum piece, decoration, or parts source at this point.

Adrian_Thompson (Forum Supporter) said:

The fact that, what appears to be manageable damage is enough to total a $3.5m vehicle says run, run away fast and don't look back.  If you've got the $$ buy it and sit on it for 20 years until people are restoring early ones with massive miles on, you know like 200 miles a year for 20 years, and sell unobtanium parts to them for dollars on the pennies.

Can you imagine what 1500 horsepower feels like as you dive into turn 5 atElkhart Lake?   Or any of the tracks long straights?  
    Then when you're done humiliating Ferrari's you could take it to the Salt flats and feel what 250 mph feels like in a stone stock automobile.   
    Sure you'd have to trailer it around but you'd want to anyway. With the cost of tires that only last a few miles at top speed anyway. 

dculberson said:

Even worse than "total," it has a "certificate of destruction" issued which as far as I know is a national death sentence for a car. It's a track toy, museum piece, decoration, or parts source at this point.

But what a track toy. Have Ferrari's slither away all embarrassed.   

Likely not even a track toy. See how the fibers are visible and unsupported in the burnt area of the fender? The chassis is largely monocoque carbon fiber. If the fire burnt away the resin matrix in portions of the monocoque, that is lost structure that you can't really fix. You would be building a new frame from scratch and swapping components over.

My .02.  That's a powertrain donor at best. There's likely structural damage to the monocoque that can't be repaired outside of sending it back to Bugatti for a total rebuild/new chassis.  The fact that those things are literally 10 pounds of E36 M3 stuffed in a 5 pound bag means there is a lot more damage than what's visible from the outside. 

Tube frame the front end then you can fit even more radiators.

matthewmcl said:

Likely not even a track toy. See how the fibers are visible and unsupported in the burnt area of the fender? The chassis is largely monocoque carbon fiber. If the fire burnt away the resin matrix in portions of the monocoque, that is lost structure that you can't really fix. You would be building a new frame from scratch and swapping components over.

If it was $10k, I'd slap some carbon fiber patches over it and ship it. But at $345k+ (who knows what it will sell for!) I'm out.

That would make a terrible track day toy. You're looking at over 10 grand a day in consumables and effective maintenance cost. And that's if you only go through one set of tires. Then what's not fool ourselves, if you only go out for a single 20 minute session in something like that to put down a time then head home, you look like a poseur. 

I would fix the exterior to make it look correct. So off whatever drivetrain suspension pieces can be sold off and then rent it for Instagram models and rappers to use in photo shoots. 

There better ways to spend 345k. 

Never have really liked those cars. I'd spend $100k on a C8 and pocket the rest. 

rustybugkiller said:

There better ways to spend 345k. 

That's all that's bid so far, I'm sure it will go higher.  Granted that's out of my league but a guy can dream can't he?  

captdownshift (Forum Supporter) said:

That would make a terrible track day toy. You're looking at over 10 grand a day in consumables and effective maintenance cost. And that's if you only go through one set of tires. Then what's not fool ourselves, if you only go out for a single 20 minute session in something like that to put down a time then head home, you look like a poseur. 

 

 

I would fix the exterior to make it look correct. So off whatever drivetrain suspension pieces can be sold off and then rent it for Instagram models and rappers to use in photo shoots. 

You're dreaming about practical?   There is nothing practical at that level.  Dream big, fun, enjoy your dreams.  
      Racing is what I like and it's rare that I see anything that I don't try to figure out how to race it.  
     

So which youtube channel do we think this will show up on once it is sold?

matthewmcl said:

Likely not even a track toy. See how the fibers are visible and unsupported in the burnt area of the fender? The chassis is largely monocoque carbon fiber. If the fire burnt away the resin matrix in portions of the monocoque, that is lost structure that you can't really fix. You would be building a new frame from scratch and swapping components over.

The Bugatti Veyron/Chiron is not a total monocoque, it has a monocoque center (cabin) section and then it has tubular subframes that attach at the front and rear firewalls. The monocoque could still be damaged but the burnt-out fender isn't necessarily evidence of it.

The certificate negates this one going to even a YouTube channel. A Bugatti parts specialist will buy this one, way more profit in pieces. 

In reply to frenchyd :

That's the thing with a Bugatti though, It's not racing because you don't have anybody to race against. It's merely lapping. If you raced a Bugatti in North America you would never have more than three other cars in the field, in your class. That couldn't be further from racing. 

adam525i said:

So which youtube channel do we think this will show up on once it is sold?

Hot Rod Garage

I actually love Veyrons, they are one of the few 'modern' super/hyper cars that interest me along with the Ford GT, but for opposite reasons.  Veyron's are like 4,400lb's.  So far out of the track day realm at that mass I don't see it being useful even for that.  These things are truly amazing GT cars, but it's not a corner carver.  I like them as they seriously moved the needle of what is possible, it's the epitome of Ettore's famous quote 'Nothing is too beautiful, nothing is too expensive'.  But a track car, no thanks.  

GameboyRMH said:

The monocoque could still be damaged but the burnt-out fender isn't necessarily evidence of it.

The burnt out fender isn't, but the substantially burnt monocoque structure surrounding the windshield is.

I bet it goes out of the country.

If it stays here they just have to find the state that will let you re-build it.  Their has to be a state will want the tax $$$$

I googled info from my state and this is all that comes back:

https://www.mass.gov/service-details/total-loss-and-salvage-vehicles

It looks like MA does not recognize a Certificate of Destruction and instead just considers it to be a Total Loss Vehicle and or a Salvage vehicle that by what I am reading could be put back on the road in MA with a branded title.  

Now that being said I really don't believe this as I think I looked into this years back and I swear that there was more in the statute but I can not find it.

Looks like someone was quite displeased with "El Alfa" as someone burned his Bugatti and also shot up his rolls.

From another pic, apparently the whole side was doused in gas (some burns on the end of the door) so definitely damaged the monocoque.

I agree, you wouldn't find anywhere, even Le Mans, to "race" one of these, would just be a high dollar track day somewhere (Flat Out!)