GnarMachine
GnarMachine
5/9/09 5:47 p.m.

I'm looking to buy my first race car to work on over this summer. My daily is a blazer, which wouldn't be much fun for any sort of racing.

I'm a total noob to any sort of racing but I think I'd like to do some auto cross and rally cross, maybe some road course or track racing too.

I've been looking at subarus mainly because the imprezas are fairly cheap and seem like they'd be a good do it all car for some weekend fun and a bit of spirited driving. There are also an abundance of subarus in the new england area so I don't think I'd have any shortage of places to find parts should I need them.

The other car that caught my eye is the miata, but that seems like it might be a bit more expensive and more difficult to get parts for.

I've also looked into bmw e30's, however I'm a bit turned off by those because a friend of mine has had nothing but trouble with his 318is and it's been really expensive to repair, maybe that's just a fluke with his particular car though.

Which car would be the better choice for someone who is on a budget but wants to have some fun? Are there any other cars that would be a good option (RWD or AWD preferably)?

Thanks for any help, it's much appreciated.

ignorant
ignorant SuperDork
5/9/09 6:25 p.m.

Whatever is cheap and plentiful. Sometimes you can find guys who sell nice cars due to financial trouble. Buying one that is "built" is a really cheap way to go.

GnarMachine
GnarMachine New Reader
5/9/09 6:48 p.m.

Yeah, there seem to be plenty of cheap 90's imprezas with wrx swaps on nasioc. I may go that route, just wanted to make sure that was the best plan for what I'd like to do.

InigoMontoya
InigoMontoya Reader
5/9/09 9:00 p.m.

Another good place to start would be the local autocross forum if you have one. We always have cars going up for sale on ours, and usually the folks who are selling are car folks and take care of their vehicles.

I would say that hondas, mazdas and subarus are good places to start, you can have fun and plenty of aftermarket for pretty much anything in that category.

The miata will be pretty much out of the box competitive, ours has koni yellows, front sway, and r coumpounds everything else is stock and does quite well (1st in e stock for spring out of 4-5 cars). It is not even the 'right' miata, m package so is heavy, 97 so rides high compared to others. Still a great car and is very easy to find parts for.

wherethefmi
wherethefmi HalfDork
5/9/09 10:19 p.m.

Go with want you really like and can afford. And that blazer would be great to rally cross.

friedgreencorrado
friedgreencorrado Reader
5/9/09 11:27 p.m.

Building one for road & off-road may be a little tough. That being said, you might want to try a simple FWD sedan. The magazine's working on a Neon right now..

http://grassrootsmotorsports.com/project-cars/1996-dodge-neon-acr/

A VW A2 Golf might do the trick as well. I'd stay away from the Hondas for rallycross, since so many of the suspension components are so light. For auto-x/track days, OTOH...an older Honda would be a lot of fun!

NBS2005
NBS2005 Dork
5/9/09 11:37 p.m.

While anything can work take some time to think about what you might want to do in the future. If you have any thoughts of stage rally, it is much easier to build a car that has proper gravel parts readily available. Subaru is a great choice for both AWD or FWD. Golfs are also good.

Neon's are cheap and if you don't think you'll ever want to do real rally, not a bad choice. But they are limited for a stage buildup (suspenders, transmissions, final drives). Ask me how I know

Travis_K
Travis_K HalfDork
5/10/09 1:48 a.m.

neons are good, subarus, golfs are decent with some work, but an untouched $1200 golf is a major POS from what i have seen (the shifter mechanism doesnt hold up well, they usually run like crap when they are cold, etc). For autocross/rallycross id get a neon, if you are thinking more rallycross and later stage rally use, either a golf or impreza would be better.

ignorant
ignorant SuperDork
5/10/09 8:44 a.m.

http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1757042 what about that gti.. in new england

Karl La Follette
Karl La Follette Reader
5/10/09 8:52 a.m.

Go to your local salvage yard or towing company and pick up a cheap beater , go green and recycle . There is allways a DUI car that somebody didnt pay their tow bill on and flash the owner some green .

iceracer
iceracer Reader
5/10/09 7:18 p.m.

There is a Blazer that runs hillclimbs in New England. Very fast.

maroon92
maroon92 SuperDork
5/10/09 7:47 p.m.

if you want cheap speed, there is nothing better than American Muscle...Fox or SN95 Mustang, Late Camaro or Firebird/Trans Am...very cheap to make fast. parts are plentiful.

GnarMachine
GnarMachine New Reader
5/10/09 9:00 p.m.
iceracer wrote: There is a Blazer that runs hillclimbs in New England. Very fast.

Really? That's pretty cool.

I guess I'll swing by a salvage yard or two and see what they have. I'm going to try to find a subaru because they seem the most versatile, but I'll keep all the other suggestions in mind.

Thanks for all the help and suggestions everyone!

Hal
Hal HalfDork
5/10/09 9:23 p.m.

Ford Focus

They do decently at Auto-X with some suspension bits. NASA even has a road racing and a rally spec class for them.

ignorant
ignorant SuperDork
5/10/09 9:43 p.m.
GnarMachine wrote:
iceracer wrote: There is a Blazer that runs hillclimbs in New England. Very fast.
Really? That's pretty cool.

http://grassrootsmotorsports.com/forum/grm/crazy-hillclimb-vehicle/2174/page1/

Autolex
Autolex Reader
5/10/09 9:46 p.m.

BMW - E30 - (88-90 325iX) Find one and do both with it!

GnarMachine
GnarMachine New Reader
5/10/09 10:38 p.m.
ignorant wrote:
GnarMachine wrote:
iceracer wrote: There is a Blazer that runs hillclimbs in New England. Very fast.
Really? That's pretty cool.
http://grassrootsmotorsports.com/forum/grm/crazy-hillclimb-vehicle/2174/page1/

That's awesome!

Unfortunately I have a second gen 4 door which isn't quite as cool.

ReverendDexter
ReverendDexter HalfDork
5/10/09 11:31 p.m.

What's your budget?

There's a big difference in what you can buy and be happy with depending on if you're expecting to spend $20k, $10k, or $2k.

It also depends on what else you need the car to do. You might be able to get away with a true 2-seater if it's ONLY a toy, or you may want it to take over some of your other driving duties, in which case a 240SX hatch may be more appropriate.

GnarMachine
GnarMachine New Reader
5/11/09 6:06 p.m.
ReverendDexter wrote: What's your budget? There's a big difference in what you can buy and be happy with depending on if you're expecting to spend $20k, $10k, or $2k. It also depends on what else you need the car to do. You might be able to get away with a true 2-seater if it's ONLY a toy, or you may want it to take over some of your other driving duties, in which case a 240SX hatch may be more appropriate.

I'd like to initially spend around $2000 or less and put money into it over time.

I'd like the car to mainly be a toy but I'll probably end up driving it around half the time, maybe more.

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