In reply to Tom1200 :
It is.
That modern cars are not designed to be driven with the windows down is the truth. Almost every newer car maybe can be driven with the driver's window down. Sometimes both front windows. But try driving with the rear windows down, with or without the fronts down, and you may get to experience extreme buffeting.
eastsideTim said:Woody (Forum Supportum) said:TJL (Forum Supporter) said:Have aftermarket car alarms gone away?
Unfortunately, they have not. Even though no one has paid attention to one since 1987.
At least proximity alarms seem to have faded away. I remember walking through parking lots and hearing "This car protected by Viper. Stand back!"
In reply to Pete. (l33t FS) :
I find putting all the windows down works well, but agree, anything other combination can create some extreme buffering that is hard on the ears
I liked wing windows, except the security issue. My removable face stereo was stolen by popping the wing window open.
Freshly spotted today on a "old man" truck.
body colored taillight covers
diamond plate bed rails
extra "spoiler" brake light
custom pinstripe chevy sticker
and i didnt get a pic, but it had a real sweet airbrushed front license plate
Pete. (l33t FS) said:In reply to Tom1200 :
That modern cars are not designed to be driven with the windows down is the truth. Almost every newer car maybe can be driven with the driver's window down. Sometimes both front windows. But try driving with the rear windows down, with or without the fronts down, and you may get to experience extreme buffeting.
Maybe my LS400 is an extreme case, but it's got bad buffeting with only the sunroof open that's as bad as the windows.
Previous sunroofed cars were '89 Accord and '93 940, they cruised great with an open top.
Besides the pop-up vent, both our Volvos have 2 open positions for the sunroof:
1) Just shy of buffeting (first push) with windows closed
2) Full open (second push), which will buffet like mad unless you crack at least 2 other windows open
TJL (Forum Supporter) said:In reply to mad_machine :
are you pro or con for the triangle flip glass like in so many older cars and trucks?
I love em!
For, I even liked the ones on my father's old towncar that rolled down before the main window.
As for those saying you cannot drive a modern car with the windows down. I drive both my Fiat 500 and my mother's buick encore with the windows down. It's never a buffeting unless there the wind is coming across the road.
In reply to Appleseed : The Rep firm I worked for had "Lund" as one of our lines. Here's my company van with the visor! Also spoiler, side skirts, bug shield and goofy antenna. White out chrome and parking lights.
In reply to Spitsix :
Wow! Did that have the 2.2 or the raging 2.6l MitsuMill?
I kinda miss that generation of Caravan.
In reply to Pete. (l33t FS) : 2.2 (
I had a great time with this van!
In reply to Spitsix :
I added those American Racing wheels to my first brand new car. They were the cheapest new 14 inch aluminum wheels that I could find. They cost me $75 each at Town Fair Tire.
You know, it's been awhile since I've seen anything plastidipped on a car around here
My 08 civic coupe is pleasant to drive with one or both windows open. I believe some of the factors are that the windows extend pretty far back due to the long coupe doors, and there's no rear windows to open. The sunroof doesn't buffet either however it's set, and whether the windows are open or closed.
On the other hand, my 2004 Ralliart wagon has to have the rear windows open if you want to drive with the fronts open.
Something that has been going out of style, and that I consider essential is a topper on a pickup truck. Now that automatically makes it an "old man's truck."
I don't care, I am an old man anyway. This is my current one. I think bed covers make little sense, especially as short as a lot of pickup beds are now.
In reply to TJL (Forum Supporter) :
I installed one on my 1999 prelude 3 years ago. And it worked quite well. But I can't say it was even necessary. I did it just to be able to unlock the doors remotely. Not really a security thing.
The paper catalogs from places like Vans Unlimited. Hours were spent looking through it.
Datsun310Guy said:I'm cleaning out some old car magazines.
Motor Trend, December, 1987
In my group of friends back in the late 70s this had a completely different meaning. We would have been on the floor laughing had we come across this back then.
RaabTheSaab said:Modified cars in general. Other than lifted trucks, I don't see too many cars that appear or sound obviously modified. I'm guessing that the price of new/used cars have put a damper on that and that many young people who would have been the culprits of those badly modified Toyota/Hondas/Mazdas no longer have an interest in the scene. If they have to choose between having a car, going to college, or getting an apartment, the car is frequently going to go in the back burner.
Had that same thought recently - there arent many modded cars out in the wild like 20 years ago.
Decals on gas pumps with Joe Biden pointing at the price that said "I did this". When the prices dropped significantly, the berks that stuck them all over the place couldn't peel them off fast enough.
hybridmomentspass said:RaabTheSaab said:Modified cars in general. Other than lifted trucks, I don't see too many cars that appear or sound obviously modified.
Had that same thought recently - there arent many modded cars out in the wild like 20 years ago.
Huh, weird. Here in the Philly-Balmer axis, there are tons of modified cars. Lots driven by younger folks, too. I don't think the hobby is dying.
Maybe they don't have horrid Wings West body kits on them, or samurai carrot peelers, so they don't stand out as visually. But they are definitely in circulation on the streets.
eastsideTim said:Truck nutz seem to have pretty much gone away, at least around me. Used to see them all the time.
I do miss the days of putting chrome truck nutz on my AW11 MR2 that was lowered, they would drag on the ground ever so slightly, you might even say in a caressing manner. always got a good laugh around campus. They have now been retired to hang on the garage wall
TJL (Forum Supporter) said:In reply to mad_machine :
are you pro or con for the triangle flip glass like in so many older cars and trucks?
I love em!
We used to call those no draft windows. My best friend in the late 70's used to call them nose draft windows, because they were shaped like a nose.
I liked them, but you had to adjust them just right to get maximum benefit and that would change as you drove, so you were sometimes adjusting them a lot.
A 401 CJ said:Decals on gas pumps with Joe Biden pointing at the price that said "I did this". When the prices dropped significantly, the berks that stuck them all over the place couldn't peel them off fast enough.
Gas prices have dropped? News to me. Where exactly? They are still outrageous everywhere. I saw $4.50-6 a gallon on my recent trip to the West Coast, Washington state $5.00+, It was $4.50 in Oregon, and $5-6 in California. It's around $3.50-$4.00 here in Florida. I was living in SATX for the FY of 2021 (October 2020-September 2021) gas prices there went from $1.9x/gallon to close to $3.00/gallon in that time frame and it's only perpetually gone up and stayed up. Maybe people have just become normalized to the costs.
I miss when cars were 'personality of owner adjacent'. Now every car show I get a chance to visit there is a bunch of carefully restored classics that barely see the light of day or modern cars on wheels with the same stickers ('only *blank* cops give me tickets' or 'locally hated' or 'berk *redacted* or some such nonsense) and its just boring. Occasionally there will be a track rat / rat rod that has some kind of personality but so many cars are just void of anything just to be seen as 'clean'.
In reply to DirtyBird222 :
Gas prices are about the same here as they were in the middle of 2019, which is before disease made the price of oil go negative for a while and then war made the price of oil skyrocket.
Fuel prices are about the same as the late 60s/early 70s, although minimum wage was higher back then, and supply/demand meant land was cheaper so you could buy a house without a 50 year negative equity loan or something crazy.
DirtyBird222 said:A 401 CJ said:Decals on gas pumps with Joe Biden pointing at the price that said "I did this". When the prices dropped significantly, the berks that stuck them all over the place couldn't peel them off fast enough.
Gas prices have dropped? News to me. Where exactly? They are still outrageous everywhere. I saw $4.50-6 a gallon on my recent trip to the West Coast, Washington state $5.00+, It was $4.50 in Oregon, and $5-6 in California. It's around $3.50-$4.00 here in Florida. I was living in SATX for the FY of 2021 (October 2020-September 2021) gas prices there went from $1.9x/gallon to close to $3.00/gallon in that time frame and it's only perpetually gone up and stayed up. Maybe people have just become normalized to the costs.
They go up and down all the time. But right after Biden was elected they went way up for the reason of the day. These decals proliferated. Then, for the reason of the day, prices went down to lower than we were used to. The decals all disappeared- and I haven't seen one on a gas pump since.
To be more accurate, they should make one with Saudi prince MBS pointing to the price.
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