Trent
Trent PowerDork
5/13/24 4:08 p.m.

 

I have been tasked with updating the wiper system in a car with this butterfly/opposed/sequential wiper system.  Can anyone think of a relatively modern donor car that uses this style of motion?

Heavily curved glass makes it difficult to go with the normal method of wiper action

Ranger50
Ranger50 MegaDork
5/13/24 4:18 p.m.

Caravan

Oapfu
Oapfu GRM+ Memberand Reader
5/13/24 4:33 p.m.

How modern?  All of the various GM minivans from the late 1900's thru 2009

93gsxturbo
93gsxturbo UltraDork
5/13/24 4:34 p.m.

Gen I and Gen II Viper

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i4IhMqRoLd8

 

Trent
Trent PowerDork
5/13/24 4:36 p.m.

Minivan! Perfect! I never would have guessed. 

Gracias Gentlemen

 

Streetwiseguy
Streetwiseguy MegaDork
5/13/24 4:52 p.m.

If you feel like writing the program, Escapes have individual wiper motors electronically synchronized, in that configuration.

How hard can it be?

John Welsh
John Welsh Mod Squad
5/13/24 5:00 p.m.

Chevy Lumina.  I think the sedans were the same also

Not that type on Dodge Grand Caravans

preach
preach GRM+ Memberand UltraDork
5/13/24 5:01 p.m.

Honda Civics.

I notice because uit is a feature of my Opel.

John Welsh
John Welsh Mod Squad
5/13/24 5:11 p.m.

2013+ Ford Escape

Duke
Duke MegaDork
5/13/24 5:16 p.m.

In reply to John Welsh :

The previous-gen "egg" Caravans had them:

2000 Dodge Grand Caravan Preview summaryImage

NY Nick
NY Nick GRM+ Memberand SuperDork
5/13/24 5:16 p.m.

I came to say Lumina. I had one for a long time and those wipers were great. 

Pete. (l33t FS)
Pete. (l33t FS) GRM+ Memberand MegaDork
5/13/24 5:28 p.m.
John Welsh said:

2013+ Ford Escape

They, and the Focus it is based on, doesn't have wiper linkage.  It has stepper motors and position sensors.  Key off, you can move them freely and independently.  Key on, they will automatically raise/lower themselves to their park position no matter where they were placed.

TurnerX19
TurnerX19 UberDork
5/13/24 5:47 p.m.

In reply to Pete. (l33t FS) :

How troublesome are the ford stepper motor sets? And how small? Position the sensors and build what seems to me to be a small control board. Should be near universal solution.

11GTCS
11GTCS SuperDork
5/13/24 5:57 p.m.

Ford Fusion from 2013 up as well but similar components to the Focus and Escape systems mentioned previously.

Pete. (l33t FS)
Pete. (l33t FS) GRM+ Memberand MegaDork
5/13/24 7:09 p.m.
TurnerX19 said:

In reply to Pete. (l33t FS) :

How troublesome are the ford stepper motor sets? And how small? Position the sensors and build what seems to me to be a small control board. Should be near universal solution.

They always just "work".  At least, I've never seen an issue.

 

It seems like it's an overcomplicated solution, but they don't have wiper linkage to bend/break the first time someone uses the wipers to try to clear heavy snow.  Or the first time eight inches thick of dense wet snow slides off of the roof at a stoplight and hits the wipers.

 

So, +10 points for idiotproofness, -90 points for idiotproofness wink

GameboyRMH
GameboyRMH GRM+ Memberand MegaDork
5/13/24 7:14 p.m.
Oapfu said:

How modern?  All of the various GM minivans from the late 1900's thru 2009

Was gonna say '02 Pontiac Montana, if that's close enough to modern...although in my experience they sometimes like to slip off the side of the entire windscreen which can scratch the A-pillar.

 

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